Graded packs from the 80's...... I don't get it
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Ok I have never owned a psa graded pack but am wondering the thought behind paying a premium for a psa 8 or even a 9 of fairly common stuff like 82 Topps baseball and football. Someone paid $189.50 for a PSA 9 pack of 82 Topps football. I am guessing getting a 9 on a graded pack is very rare. It just doesn't make sense to me
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In my signature line below I have a 1980 cello pack set myself and for top graded packs there's quite the competition to get them. Feel free to pick up a graded pack and join the registry yourself so you can see what the excitement is all about. We'd love to have you!
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what he said
People buy into PSA/graded related items almost the same way they buy into stock. And just like stock it can be heavily inflated just waiting to pop. A 1982 PSA 9 graded pack is a perfect example of that. You can almost get a full box for the same price. The buyer is simply buying the idea of perceived future value.
eBay 1982 Topps FB PSA 9 Pack $189
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And is there a lot greater chance of a psa 9 pack yielding higher grade cards?
No way, no better chance at all.
And is there a lot greater chance of a psa 9 pack yielding higher grade cards?
No way, no better chance at all.
Unless lower grade pack has corner holes or wear which can cause wear on corners in the pack. Also, a pack in higher grade tends to be better preserved over the years. Though it is certainly possible to pull higher grade cards from lower grade packs, too.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I can see paying for a higher priced pack like 81 basketball maybe but 82 football?! Just curious if you took a box of 82 football from a case what the average grade breakdown of the packs would be
Supply vs demand. There have only been 45 '82 football wax packs graded (only 7 have gotten 9's), also there were only two bidders for it.
Even "somewhat modern" packs are hard to get in high grade. The '81 basketball you mentioned has only 3 that have graded 9 out of 157 total graded.
The fact that there is a lower pop on a 1982 topps football pack (or 81 Basketball) does not necessarily suggest that it is rare. Most people don't waste their time getting 82 topps football packs graded. I'm all but positive that it would only take a few people (possibly on this board) to flood the market in a matter of weeks if they wanted to.
I never suggested that they are rare. I was simply stating the supply (graded) was low, thus the high price. I'm all but positive that no one can flood the market of PSA 9 graded packs of the years mentioned in a matter of weeks. Even if someone could in the future, why would they waste their time, there's obviously no demand for high grade packs.
What is so special about an 81 Basketball vs 82 Football? I can see 80 Basketball but 81?
I don't have a PSA9 '81 badketball pack myself so I'd be a very high bidder if one came to market.
I also feel higher graded cards do come from higher graded packs in general. Not centering wise but corner condition wise of course. There's are a lot of nice 7 packs out there though because of the gum tear issues that are frequent in PSA holder packs. If I were buying to crack and grade I'd buy as many 7 gum tear packs as I could for the price break.
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I also started adding some random packs from bigger movies like Star Wars, Indiana Jones and some packs of Alf.
Gonna add some wacky packs or garbage pail kids also here at some point this year.
Anyone have experience with the above? Curious at what age your child really started to show interest in doing this with dad.
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Anyone have experience with the above? Curious at what age your child really started to show interest in doing this with dad.
I think it is a crapshoot - some have a ton of interest and others do not. My step-son is 10 y.o. and he is all for it right now. I have given him graded slabs, unopened junk wax, individual cards and he is eating it up right now. I was going through boxes of slabbed cards and found a Gem Mint 10 Steve Avery 1989 Topps. Not worth a ton moneywise, but to him he thought it was the coolest thing in the world. I gave him a raw 1970 Topps AL HR Leaders with Killebrew and Reggie on it. He was in awe. The card was VG at best...maybe a buck or two, but to him it is a card from 46 years ago! I am teaching him about protecting his cards versus just throwing them in a shoebox. I have given him penny sleeves, toploaders, etc. It's fun!
You'll just have to play it by ear and see what he is into.
As my boys got bigger, I moved them onto non-sport wax... went through three or 4 different Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles sets, Popeye, Adventure Time, Super Mario Bros, etc. The sets were small, boxes were cheap, and I bought them a binder and pages for each set... so we'd open packs, and then go through the binder looking for ones we needed.
This last Christmas, I bought them both a box of 2015 Topps Update... which we've been opening for the last month. They're definitely at the age now that they can appreciate the sports cards... my oldest plays baseball/soccer/basketball and knows a lot of the current players in the major three. My youngest understands I'm a huge Cubs fan, so he's thrilled at any Cubs player we get (already hit a Rizzo AS patch relic and gold Kris Bryant in his box). But I have no idea how long they'll stay interested... I figure if they do, they'll join the modern crowd and end up looking for big hits rather than set collecting... or they may give it up altogether. But that's fine, at least it was a blast while they did enjoy it!
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