1969 Seaver PSA 9 Ending Tonight ALERT - Same Flip # but Seems to Be Different Card
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Something is amiss with regard to the following eBay listing:
69_SEAVER_PSA9
I checked on VCP and found the sale and image for the same flip number sold by sundiegocollectibles on 2/20/2014.
Link_to_2014_Sale
It's hard to believe this is the same card. In the purple circle where Seaver's name appears the eBay listing shows a while print eye over the "c" in pitcher that is nowhere to be seen on the 2/20/2014 image. Also, the 2/20/2014 image has two white print dots at approx 1 o'clock and 8 o'clock on the edge of the black circle around the purple circle which I don't see on the eBay listing image.
There are more differences. There is a white print spot on Seaver's left cheek and a white "scratch" under his chin in the 2/20/2014 image that also don't appear on the eBay listing.
There are only 2 possible explanations:
1) The eBay seller has a scanner that has somehow "corrected" blemishes in the image (possibly not deliberate as there are automatic settings which can sometimes do this)
2) It's not the same card
The only other yellow flag is that the same seller sold another one of these cards on 5/31/2015. However, its a reasonably low-pop card, so its unusual that one seller would have more than one so soon after the first. Not impossible, but with the differences in the card images this issue also needs to be considered.
For subscribe to VCP, here is a copy of the image from the 2/20/2014 sale.
And here is a capture of the eBay listing photo
Very Strange.
69_SEAVER_PSA9
I checked on VCP and found the sale and image for the same flip number sold by sundiegocollectibles on 2/20/2014.
Link_to_2014_Sale
It's hard to believe this is the same card. In the purple circle where Seaver's name appears the eBay listing shows a while print eye over the "c" in pitcher that is nowhere to be seen on the 2/20/2014 image. Also, the 2/20/2014 image has two white print dots at approx 1 o'clock and 8 o'clock on the edge of the black circle around the purple circle which I don't see on the eBay listing image.
There are more differences. There is a white print spot on Seaver's left cheek and a white "scratch" under his chin in the 2/20/2014 image that also don't appear on the eBay listing.
There are only 2 possible explanations:
1) The eBay seller has a scanner that has somehow "corrected" blemishes in the image (possibly not deliberate as there are automatic settings which can sometimes do this)
2) It's not the same card
The only other yellow flag is that the same seller sold another one of these cards on 5/31/2015. However, its a reasonably low-pop card, so its unusual that one seller would have more than one so soon after the first. Not impossible, but with the differences in the card images this issue also needs to be considered.
For subscribe to VCP, here is a copy of the image from the 2/20/2014 sale.
And here is a capture of the eBay listing photo
Very Strange.
Dave
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Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
photo there are a lot of differences. Again, it may be a enhanced image due to a scanner but the differences are significant.
Dave
Look carefully at the Purple circle differences, the white spot on Seaver's left cheek and the white "scratch" under the chin. Compared to the ebay listing
photo there are a lot of differences. Again, it may be a enhanced image due to a scanner but the differences are significant.
Those could easily be a scratch on the holder or dust on the scanner/holder. The cards have too much in common for them to be different cards, IMO.
It just doesn't seem possible that a different card could have all the structural properties these two share...specific wear at lower right corner (with dot), same tilt, same exact centering, etc. I would guess the differences you see must be scan related.
Certainly a possibility (as previously suggested). Most of the differences relate to "white" marks in the old picture that do not appear in the new one. Could be some sort of auto-correcting by the scanner.
Dave
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
Erik
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
Look carefully at the Purple circle differences, the white spot on Seaver's left cheek and the white "scratch" under the chin. Compared to the ebay listing
photo there are a lot of differences. Again, it may be a enhanced image due to a scanner but the differences are significant.
Those could easily be a scratch on the holder or dust on the scanner/holder. The cards have too much in common for them to be different cards, IMO.
This.
Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks.
Prefer to buy in bulk.