Howell Works scrip copy

sellitstore

This is a litho copy lacking detail of genuine engraved note.

bad fake

techwriter

it is an ugly copy. Did you report this to eBay?

sellitstore

Yes, even though it seemed pretty Grinch-like to do this on Christmas.




We'll see if they remove it.

Jim61

If you read it, it is a public service announcement.

cinch

"This particular note has been in my family for generations, as I found it while cleaning out some things from my great grandfather who was born around 1870." Ha!

sellitstore

OK, I don't feel guilty now.

Ebay pulled it, the seller relisted it with some new lie about his ancestor receiving this note in pay, so I reported it again.

Howell Works copy





I sent him the below message, too.





I don't doubt that you live near the former Howell Works but this note is an obvious copy. I sell these for a living, so when copies are sold through the same venue, it hurts my business. If you keep listing it here, I will keep on reporting it as a copy. I posted a thread on the Collectors Universe paper money discussion board and several other members reported it to Ebay, too. Ebay wouldn't pull it, as they did, unless it IS a copy, so please don't try to dispute this point. If you relist it here they will pull this note again and again and eventually ban you from listing.

delistamps

Pulled again!

sellitstore

It took two emails but I got a positive response that made it all worthwhile. I have to credit this seller for being more reasonable and intelligent than most.




"Dear sellitstore,




Hi Russell,




Thank you for taking the time to explain my error and for saving me the embarrassment of possibly selling a fraudulent item. I apologize for my mistake and for my initial pig-headedness - I made the wrongful assumption that, since it was old, it could not possibly be a reproduction. After hearing from you and Ebay yesterday, I consulted a local currency dealer (a neighbor of Allaire State Park, the current site of Howell Works) who told me essentially the same thing that you have said. He pointed me to an authentic note and the differences are obvious. I have owned a number of authentic Civil War era fractionals that came from my same family members and the coloring and detail were amazing and beautiful., I just assumed that the government was able to make such nice notes while a company such as Howell was able to get away with lesser quality.




I appreciate people like you who take the time to help people like myself who know so little about currency. I was hesitant to spend the money for authentication when I did not expect much in an auction, and the quality books on the topic are more than I wanted to spend since I only had one note of this nature. Thank you so much for your help and for stopping me from making a mistake I would certainly have regretted.




Best wishes for a great New Year,


xxxxx, xxxxx




- hebrews1325

delistamps

Good outcome!

Tookybandit

Nice!

DepressionscripGuy

Very good outcome... and I'm sure you let him know about this forum. Notes in question can always be posted for best guess....

mfontes

wow are you sure you didn't write that response ??. I appreciate a seller who wishes to correct rather than deceive.

TigerTrader

I have never received a response from anyone on Ebay that I was trying to HELP, that even approaches the kindness in the response you posted.



Hopefully it was genuine!

Berny

Although most of my responses have been negative or neutral, there have been some that were positive. One has even called on me a few times to ask about a potential posting.

techwriter

I agree, was good to hear that an eBay seller would do such a 'mea culpa'; seems like he was trying to do the right thing.