Recently I reported finding another D.W. Valentine Plate H10c.
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And in doing further research on the 1859-o V-3 I decided to start looking in other noted collector's collections to see if I could find it there in order to retrace what happened to it after the early 1830's when D.W. passed away. Since it is one of the finest known for the date my usual m.o. is to look at the ole time pedigrees since they collected the finest knowns knowing that the odds were against them having it since they acquired their collections before the '30's but I had to make sure either way.
So I started searching the ole time pedigreed collectors of the '40's & '50's and low and behold came across the exact plated image in the 10/1981 Harold S. Bareford Collection where it was described as Lot 102 a Gem B.U. and sold for $2500. He intern purchased it in 1949 at the A.N.A. as lot 1086 on 8/21/1949. So it appears the Valentine family either sold it at that auction or sold it prior and a dealer/collector was the consignor, I will continue tracing it back if I can.
BTW The Bareford Collection has a wonderful photo of it and I have to say this coin matches that Plate as well as the Valentine Plate exactly, good to know nobody messed with it all through the years especially since it is darkly toned with great luster and you know how blast white sells.
So I started searching the ole time pedigreed collectors of the '40's & '50's and low and behold came across the exact plated image in the 10/1981 Harold S. Bareford Collection where it was described as Lot 102 a Gem B.U. and sold for $2500. He intern purchased it in 1949 at the A.N.A. as lot 1086 on 8/21/1949. So it appears the Valentine family either sold it at that auction or sold it prior and a dealer/collector was the consignor, I will continue tracing it back if I can.
BTW The Bareford Collection has a wonderful photo of it and I have to say this coin matches that Plate as well as the Valentine Plate exactly, good to know nobody messed with it all through the years especially since it is darkly toned with great luster and you know how blast white sells.
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And in doing further research on the 1859-o V-3 I decided to start looking in other noted collector's collections to see if I could find it there in order to retrace what happened to it after the early 1830's when D.W. passed away. Since it is one of the finest known for the date my usual m.o. is to look at the ole time pedigrees since they collected the finest knowns knowing that the odds were against them having it since they acquired their collections before the '30's but I had to make sure either way.
So I started searching the ole time pedigreed collectors of the '40's & '50's and low and behold came across the exact plated image in the 10/1981 Harold S. Bareford Collection where it was described as Lot 102 a Gem B.U. and sold for $2500. He intern purchased it in 1949 at the A.N.A. as lot 1086 on 8/21/1949. So it appears the Valentine family either sold it at that auction or sold it prior and a dealer/collector was the consignor, I will continue tracing it back if I can.
BTW The Bareford Collection has a wonderful photo of it and I have to say this coin matches that Plate as well as the Valentine Plate exactly, good to know nobody messed with it all through the years especially since it is darkly toned with great luster and you know how blast white sells.
check that date of Valentine's passing
D.W. Plate printed in 1931, he died in 1932? And I wrote he died in early 1930's? I don't see anything way off, but thanks!
Umm....
D.W. Plate printed in 1931, he died in 1932? And I wrote he died in early 1930's? I don't see anything way off, but thanks!
Umm....
yeah, just a hundred years off. LOL
D.W. Plate printed in 1931, he died in 1932? And I wrote he died in early 1930's? I don't see anything way off, but thanks!
Umm....
yeah, just a hundred years off. LOL
hey what's a few hunnert years...
How many Valentine plate coins have you identified in current collections?
And is this the farthest back you've traced one?
I know for the Valentine plate 1802, we only know provenance to 1999, then to a Virginia collector before that.
Are there several other half dimes which might have been his, listed in the 1949 sale?
It's an old mystery, and it's great that you've made some progress on it.
I'm sure you know, but below is part of what Stephen Crain wrote about locating Valentine plate coins in his 2005 article on Dr. Valentine:
http://www.seateddimevarieties...e%201,%20Issue%203.htm
I imagine finding a copy of the 1960 catalog for the Holme collection might be difficult, though.