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Terwin
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I was wondering if any of you folks have had trouble with Gavelsnipe. I sniped a PSA 9 Gale Sayers Rookie on Ebay. I really "needed" this card so I put a snipe in at $5600 knowing it would go for about what it did ($4200). Well sure enough, it sold for about 4200 but not to me as my bid was never entered for some reason. I've contacted Gavelsnipe but haven't got a reply yet...of course I don't pay for this service so I'm not sure they really care.
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1. There was an issue on the ebay site around 6pm Pacific on a Sunday evening this last summer. Folks on this board all had snipes that did not fire at that particular time.
2. I set up a new account to do buying from because I wasn't getting the ebay bucks bonuses. When I had low feedback, I had a snipe not accepted by the seller because they didn't accept bids from folks with feedback less than X. In this case, it wasn't the snipe that was the problem, it was the fact that I had a new account and didn't meet the seller's policy.
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If you are willing to pay more contact the seller and make the offer. They can refuse the sale to the "high" bidder.
That would be extremely unethical. The high bidder won the auction so they should get the card.
James
If you are willing to pay more contact the seller and make the offer. They can refuse the sale to the "high" bidder.
That would be extremely unethical. The high bidder won the auction so they should get the card.
James
+1, I would never do business again with a seller that didn't honor the high bid.
Gavelsnipe got back to me and informed me that Ebay returned a CAPTCHA form when they tried to enter the bid. I'm not sure what that means but possibly due to the high amount of the bid...of course it's impossible to get ahold of Ebay for an explanation.
If you are willing to pay more contact the seller and make the offer. They can refuse the sale to the "high" bidder.
That would be extremely unethical. The high bidder won the auction so they should get the card.
James
+1, I would never do business again with a seller that didn't honor the high bid.
I've never asked a seller to sell an item to me after an auction that I lost or missed out on. Agree it is unethical, but it happens and has happened to me. Up to the OP, and others, to take the advice or not.
If you are willing to pay more contact the seller and make the offer. They can refuse the sale to the "high" bidder.
Absolutely terrible advice.
If you are willing to pay more contact the seller and make the offer. They can refuse the sale to the "high" bidder.
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Agree its unethical and also criminal. You agree to the terms of use and to enter a contract with the high bidder. In order to use ebay. Also, that seller won't be around long. I would hope.
Has this ever happened to anyone here?
But why in the world would you admit that it has happened to you and then even remotely think about promoting such a deplorable gesture to continue the practice?
Just terrible.
edit: I know you need money for the holiday season. I was robbed once. So why don't you just go out and rob someone at gunpoint? but it's up to you whether or not to take the advice.
Gavelsnipe got back to me and informed me that Ebay returned a CAPTCHA form when they tried to enter the bid. I'm not sure what that means but possibly due to the high amount of the bid...of course it's impossible to get ahold of Ebay for an explanation.
If a Gavelsnipe snipe does not go through, 100% of the blame goes to Gavelsnipe, not ebay.
My snipe failed to execute. What happened?
GavelSnipe may encounter problems on an auction site that can cause a snipe to fail to execute. Network delays and server timeouts can cause the sign in page or bidding page to not respond. GavelSnipe is designed to continue attempts to sign in and bid during the user-defined snipe buffer until a bid is placed or the auction ends.
eBay has security measures in place to detect weak passwords. This security measure can cause your snipe to fail because the eBay log in process is interrupted by the weak password notification. Click here for tips on creating a secure eBay password.
eBay randomly uses captcha verification codes. These codes require human intervention to proceed with the sign-in/bidding process. Captcha verification codes will cause a snipe to fail because GavelSnipe is unable to sign in and bid.
all good here!
...umm, yeah, I would never do that. No worries here.
Gavelsnipe got back to me and informed me that Ebay returned a CAPTCHA form when they tried to enter the bid. I'm not sure what that means but possibly due to the high amount of the bid...of course it's impossible to get ahold of Ebay for an explanation.
CAPTCHAs are the annoying pictures with distorted letters/numbers that you must type in to 'prove' you're a human and not an automated script. Like when you try to send a user a message on eBay. There's been some discussion in the past on eBay disrupting some snipes so they can push their own paid snipe service in the future, though I thought it was supposed to be based on number of snipes over a certain timeframe and not dollar amount. Things must have changed.
I once had a buyer contact me and say their bid didn't go through. They offered $1500 on a listing that ended at $500. I took the higher offer, only after contacting the winning bidder and working out a deal with them which included another example of the item they won. As I said earlier, I've never offered a seller more on a lost auction.
It's really no different than the folks who openly admit to contacting a seller and agreeing to off eBay terms where the seller pulls an auction regardless of how many bids are on it. When you contact a seller and say, hey I'll give you X amount to sell it to me right now is it right and ethical to those who already had placed their bids? Is it right and ethical to the current high bidder? Is it right and ethical to those who have the item in their watch list or who have a snipe placed?
I once had a buyer contact me and say their bid didn't go through. They offered $1500 on a listing that ended at $500. I took the higher offer, only after contacting the winning bidder and working out a deal with them which included another example of the item they won. As I said earlier, I've never offered a seller more on a lost auction.
What is ethical or not can be somewhat of a gray area.
This is just my opinion, but yes, once bids are entered on an item, it would be unethical to end the item to sell it outright.
However, I find it more unethical that a "won" item could be lost due to the shenanigans that you "advised". As a bidder in an open auction, I am fully aware that I may lose the auction with 1 second left, no matter how high my bid is. So having the listing pulled early doesn't irk me quite as bad, but I still find it very unethical. However, when that timer reaches 0, I am the rightful owner of that card and have full rights to its possession, and I would no longer find it unethical, but more in the lines of unlawful.
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Up to the OP, and others, to take the advice or not.
Hours later...
I didn't give the OP "advice" but stated that since it's a card he "needs" then to [go ahead] and send the seller a message and offer how much he would pay.
Up to the OP, and others, to take the advice or not.
Hours later...
I didn't give the OP "advice" but stated that since it's a card he "needs" then to [go ahead] and send the seller a message and offer how much he would pay.
Hah!
edit to add: Poor choice of words on my end, but I certainly didn't mean for my comment to be taken as advice as in something I would do if in a similar position.
Is that you up there Begsu1013?
I can also right click on an image and hit properties.
However, nice attempt at deflection. Is the victim card coming next?
Here's a post you made in the pet peeves thread.
Here's your card in the PSA Registry.
That's your big reveal?
Again, deflection.
Mullins...What are you implying with the '53? Its not the same card?
I think he's saying that "therookiemonster" is "begsu1013's" alt. How many times has he been banned now?
So where is Begsu?