Italy 20c "error" noted on NGC label

lordmarcovan

"Italy Double Denom Error 1918R Struck over 20 Centesimi of 1894 NGC MS63"



Never mind the seller's "double denom" adjectives in the title. It's a 20-centesimi overstruck on another 20-centesimi, so it's not a double denomination. Just an overstrike.



And... umm... correct me if I'm wrong, here, but wasn't this entire issue overstruck on the ca. 1894 type of 20-centesimi coins?



Which would hardly make it an "error", since the mint would've presumably known about it?



Seems strange for NGC to be calling this a mint error.



Looks to me like a nice BU coin and that's all. No error.



(Except perhaps for the decimal placement in the pricetag.)



Or am I missing something?

thatoneguy

Maybe NGC considered it an error because you can still see the original strike under the later strike?


Beats me...

Zot

Is this even an error at all?



It's from Italy, so there's probably something wrong with it.

Or if there isn't now, there will be soon



or perhaps that was only for exotic cars?

I've ventured perilously far from the safety of the MD Forum. I'll crawl back into my hole now.

lordmarcovan

The Secret Squirrel has been sighted! LOL

coinkat

I agree with you Lord M- One just can see the remains of the host coin- interesting and that about sums it up

STLNATS

And... umm... correct me if I'm wrong, here, but wasn't this entire issue overstruck on the ca. 1894 type of 20-centesimi coins?



Yes. I have a few circulated examples of these that I pulled out of "junk boxes" years ago and almost all show some elements of the undertype. In fact, from my experience it seems that coins with no undertype are fairly hard to find. Very evident on circulated issues since the dirt got into all those little crevices.



Wonder if he'd be willing to buy mine for say $500 apiece? What a deal (for me)!

lordmarcovan

I always thought these were cool for being overstrikes, but since they're ALL overstrikes (or almost all?) that hardly makes them an error.



The overstriking was, after all, deliberate.



I question NGC's judgment in labeling them as errors.

Pokermandude

If the overstriking was sanctioned by the mint, I would definitely not call it an error. Calling it an error implies there is something about it that the mint's quality control missed and caused it to be released unintentionally.