"Lost" in the mail UPDATE
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I've consigned with Jeremy in the past, and I wanted to sell some coins through him to move towards a more ancient-based collection. I've never had a problem with USPS, and so when my wife mailed the coins I suppose we just took it for granted that the coins I wanted to sell would arrive in good measure like they always tended to do.
Not so this time unfortunately. The coins never arrived. And to make matters worse the receipt with the tracking number was accidentally disposed of.
My wife tried to talk to the local PO about the matter but she, perhaps the sweetest and warmest women in the world, was chewed out, lectured and treated like garbage by the staff there (which is what I'm most upset about). Basically they told her it's her fault. Yes even though we could have taken more care, something is also clearly wrong with the post office in that they "lost" such a thing.
Any advice on what to do next? Here are the coins.
Saxony Thaler, raw.
Not so this time unfortunately. The coins never arrived. And to make matters worse the receipt with the tracking number was accidentally disposed of.
My wife tried to talk to the local PO about the matter but she, perhaps the sweetest and warmest women in the world, was chewed out, lectured and treated like garbage by the staff there (which is what I'm most upset about). Basically they told her it's her fault. Yes even though we could have taken more care, something is also clearly wrong with the post office in that they "lost" such a thing.
Any advice on what to do next? Here are the coins.
Saxony Thaler, raw.
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When it comes to coins you posted, I would have made sure to insure them and such. My stuff was low value, less then $60 all times but thankfully they were buys that I got refunds on.
At the least, can you add the PCGS numbers to the PCGS stolen coin tracking?
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How long has it been?
Since you dont have the tracking I would say your out of luck.
+1.
Terrible situation to have lost such lovely coins, but I'm not sure what they can do if you don't have any documentation. In terms of the treatment you received, I thought they have district/regional offices to field customer complaints but that's probably not going to get your coins back.
I think service must vary widely by location. I've been fortunate to have had usually great experience with USPS over the years (at two different areas), from my local carriers to folks at the main office. The OL tracking is good, I think, and helps (me at least) to ameliorate some of the anxiety of watching my stuff go thru the system. Service and security seems much better than UPS/Fedex but that's just my experience.
Hope your parcel just took a scenic detour and pops up at its destination soon!
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Days? Weeks? Couple months?
If it's been less than a month, I'm still hopeful they will make it to their intended destination.
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We do have the transaction record on our bank statement for the payment of the shipping, though I'm guessing the local PO rejected that out of hand.
I still have a distant hope that it's taking a long route to WA... I hear that's happening a lot lately.
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Two years or so ago, I had one vanish for five months before showing up.
Makes me a little nauseous for you, seeing how lovely those are.
*crossing fingers*
Or something else?
The reason I ask, if you keep a small stash of insurance forms on hand for shipping, they are likely in sequence. They usually skip a few numbers, but usually not more than 15 at a time. So, theoretically, if you have an unused insurance form on hand from the same batch you used to ship your package, you could go on the usps website and just start entering tracking numbers starting with the next one below your unused form and keep going down by 1 until you hit the one that matches acceptance at your post office at the time and date you shipped your package. It won't be good enough for a claim, but at least you can see what tracking says and possibly request an inquiry.
Example: You have an unused form with number: VJ386801100US
Go to usps.com and enter
VJ386801099US and see what it says. Not the right one? Then enter VJ386801098US and see the results. Keep going until you find the right one, or until you've done about 25 with no success.
But, if you either used the post office's automatically generated tracking or grabbed a single fresh form at the post office, you're probably out of luck.
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I'm sorry that this happened to you. If you decide to consider the coins lost or stolen, there are dozens of institutions worldwide, who have departments that will list your coins as stolen. There's a special world database that is being kept up to date, according to the fate of stolen goods and the items that are being daily added to these lists. I believe the ANA is probably among them, but there are also many international agencies, including some in Canada, as well as several in Europe. A friend of mine had lost some very rare coins from Cyprus via Fedex, and he litterally contacted every single such agency or department in the world. His coins haven't been recovered, they were probably sold via underground channels, (too rare to show up at auction, or to be offered to a dealer), but at least it gives you the peace of mind that they won't be sold publicly. Several of them have been recovered.
Every major auction house has lists of stolen coins in case any show up for consignement or for sale. This would be my advise and if you ever recover the USPS parcel, all the better, just contact these same agencies and inform them of the outcome, otherwise the sooner you declare them stolen, the better.
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I had one coin stolen from me by a PCGS board member who was also a repeat client and I have added the cert number to my own such private Registry set. It has never turned up, but I am hopeful.
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Sure hope these coins find there way back to you.
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Sometimes first class and priority gets mixed in with parcels and sit in trucks or at PO's along the route.
Glad it showed up - and save those receipts (and insurance can be your friend)
Glad to hear the coins arrived and all turned out OK.
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