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SO what is the difference between a lincoln PR & MPL?

RealoneRealone Posts: 18,519 ✭✭✭✭✭
I often seen lincolns like the 1915 Proof and then over here I see 1915 MPL's, are there differences I imagine?

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  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,289 ✭✭✭
    I always thought all 09-16 Lincoln Proofs were Matte Proofs.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,542 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since all 1915 Proof cents are Matte Proofs I would say that just saying "Proof" is an acceptable shorthand for that issue.
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,673 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As I understand it, it's just:



    PR= generic abbreviation for any proof

    MPL= specific abbreviation for a Matte Proof Lincoln (perhaps exclusively used on these boards and maybe across the street? I dunno.)




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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PR = Proof.

    MPL = Matte Proof Lincoln.



    starting in 1909 and continuing until 1916(17) and again in 1936 the Mint used a different die preparation technique. the result was a textured and almost luster-less appearance when the coins were struck. it is quite striking.
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  • garrynotgarrynot Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Realone

    Are you saying all proof lincolns from 1909 thru 1916 are in fact MPL's?






    That is correct

  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    quite striking.


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  • MonsterCoinzMonsterCoinz Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
    /thread



    A neat fantasy coin would would be a 1909-16 mirror proof Lincoln. I've never been interested in the D Carr restrikes but that would would certainly be a purchase for me.
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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good thread...needs pics. image
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    You can really se the surface texture on this image on my 1911MPL
  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice.

    Too bad they're so rare as to be kind of expensive.
  • Originally posted by: abcde12345

    Nice.

    Too bad they're so rare as to be kind of expensive.




    That seems to be a general Issue (see what I did there) for all the coins in our hobby lol.
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,673 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: robec

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    Wow Bob!!!



  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,920 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MPLs are a short set of coins passed about from collector to collector as they tire of daydreaming of finding the VDB
  • deefree49deefree49 Posts: 282 ✭✭✭
    I'm a sucker for Lincoln Matte Proofs. I'm an even worse sucker for the VDB. It is the only one I don't have. boo hoo.

    Have any of you seen Carl Waltz Jr.'s book "A Study of Matte Proof Lincolns 1909 to 1916"?. It is the best I've seen at giving diagnostics to recognizing the coins. I just bought a copy and find it indispensable for knowing if the coin you are considering is a genuine proof. Business strikes pass as matte proofs often enough that it is a problem worthy of addressing. Carl's book will do the job for you. It also will show you how to identify which die pair your coin was made with.
    Lincoln coin lover, especially Matte Proofs
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The good news is that MPL's have come way down in price following the last promotion. If you stay away from RD designated coins in 65 then outside of the VDB the 1910-1914 can all be had for $1500 or so. The 1915 around 3k and the 1916 a little more.



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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,470 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They are beautiful.
  • Jackthecat1Jackthecat1 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭
    I love matte proofs, especially gold. Luckily the British 1902 Coronation proof set followed the new fashion of matte proofs. The half sovereign and sovereign are the only reasonably affordable matte proof gold that I am aware of.
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