Home U.S. Coin Forum
Options

Post a coin that was just "TOO PRETTY" for the graders.

keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
image



image
"If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners. :smile:

Comments

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I still don't understand this one;




    1849 $1 QUESTIONABLE COLOR

    image
    image
    oih82w8 = Oh I Hate To Wait _defectus patientia_aka...Dr. Defecto - Curator of RMO's

    BST transactions: dbldie55, jayPem, 78saen, UltraHighRelief, nibanny, liefgold, FallGuy, lkeigwin, mbogoman, Sandman70gt, keets, joeykoins, ianrussell (@GC), EagleEye, ThePennyLady, GRANDAM, Ilikecolor, Gluggo, okiedude, Voyageur, LJenkins11, fastfreddie, ms70, pursuitofliberty, ZoidMeister,Coin Finder, GotTheBug, edwardjulio, Coinnmore, Nickpatton, Namvet69,...
  • drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,049 ✭✭✭✭✭
    91...

    imageimage
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My following 1921 Peace Dollar received an Uncirculated Details - Artificial Toning designation by NGC.



    I love the look of this coin, and feel fortunate to have purchased it for a very affordable price based on the grading designation.



    1921 Toned Peace Dollar - NGC Unc Details - Artificial Toning


    imageimage

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've posted this rare mule token here a few times but never mentioned it's in a NGC UNC Details holder being Environmentally Damaged in their opinion. It popped up on EBay in June of 2013 and due to the details grade had a heavily discounted BIN. The seller images where really poor (Girl Scout Thin Mint Cookie) and I couldn't tell much and figured this would be something I needed to soak in mineral oil. Upon arrival I nearly fell over as there's nothing on this token that made me feel it needed to be cracked out.



    Circa 1858 Nathan C. Folger, New Orleans / C.W. Jackson, Philadelphia, U.S. Merchant Store Card, Miller-LA-19 Mule.



    This Miller-LA-19 U.S. Merchant Store Card is a mule of a circa 1853-58 Nathan C. Folger, New Orleans clothing store Miller LA-10 obverse and circa 1851-55 C.W. Jackson Philadelphia coal dealer Miller PA-234 reverse. Elliot Woodward had already described this as "extremely rare" in a 1863 Bangs auction. I've never seen one plated before and Russell Rulau questions if the edge is plain or reeded which leads me to believe he never saw an example either. The edge is plain non reeded and interestingly the obverse has a rim clip with the reverse being completely clip free. If you look closely this was struck on a copper planchet meant for a Folger issue which is 29mm in diameter. The C.W. Jackson obverse die design used on the reverse of this mule is for a 28mm diameter token planchet. Struck perfectly centered it avoids the planchet clip and cups the rims upward from striking pressure. Although some mules have been intentional by the commissioning client selecting a different already cut reverse die store card design more fitting for another token manufacturing run. With both being nearly 1,100 miles apart from one another this token served no purpose as a store advertising card for either merchant and was a fantasy re-strike which was made to order at the request of a token collector. This practice was quite common with the likes of Levick, Bushnell and others to own something unique and create rarities within the series.



    image



    image
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • MonsterCoinzMonsterCoinz Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: keyman64

    image



    image






    So you're the one who snagged that. It looked nice! Here's a few:



    image



    image



    image
    www.MonsterCoinz.com | My Toned Showcase

    Check out my iPhone app SlabReader!
  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Broadstruck
    I've posted this rare mule token here a few times but never mentioned it's in a NGC UNC Details holder being Environmentally Damaged in their opinion. It popped up on EBay in June of 2013 and due to the details grade had a heavily discounted BIN. The seller images where really poor (Girl Scout Thin Mint Cookie) and I couldn't tell much and figured this would be something I needed to soak in mineral oil. Upon arrival I nearly fell over as there's nothing on this token that made me feel it needed to be cracked out.

    Circa 1858 Nathan C. Folger, New Orleans / C.W. Jackson, Philadelphia, U.S. Merchant Store Card, Miller-LA-19 Mule.

    This Miller-LA-19 U.S. Merchant Store Card is a mule of a circa 1853-58 Nathan C. Folger, New Orleans clothing store Miller LA-10 obverse and circa 1851-55 C.W. Jackson Philadelphia coal dealer Miller PA-234 reverse. Elliot Woodward had already described this as "extremely rare" in a 1863 Bangs auction. I've never seen one plated before and Russell Rulau questions if the edge is plain or reeded which leads me to believe he never saw an example either. The edge is plain non reeded and interestingly the obverse has a rim clip with the reverse being completely clip free. If you look closely this was struck on a copper planchet meant for a Folger issue which is 29mm in diameter. The C.W. Jackson obverse die design used on the reverse of this mule is for a 28mm diameter token planchet. Struck perfectly centered it avoids the planchet clip and cups the rims upward from striking pressure. Although some mules have been intentional by the commissioning client selecting a different already cut reverse die store card design more fitting for another token manufacturing run. With both being nearly 1,100 miles apart from one another this token served no purpose as a store advertising card for either merchant and was a fantasy re-strike which was made to order at the request of a token collector. This practice was quite common with the likes of Levick, Bushnell and others to own something unique and create rarities within the series.

    image

    image




    Where the heck is the damage?

    Post liquid lunch grade?
    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • MonsterCoinzMonsterCoinz Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ^^ looks like the rim is clipped.
    www.MonsterCoinz.com | My Toned Showcase

    Check out my iPhone app SlabReader!
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: mach1ne

    ^^ looks like the rim is clipped.




    Yes but only seen on the planchets 29mm Obverse Die strike not the centered slightly cupped 28mm Reverse Die strike.
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Where the heck is the damage? Post liquid lunch grade?




    Ha... Thanks why it's important to resubmit anything details graded you feel confident about prior to just blowing it out. Thankfully most of the stuff I collect is so far removed from general numismatics plastic isn't a requirement.



    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image



    This coin was in another TPG's holder and did not cross when I sent it to our host. It was returned to me with a loose slab insert that was labeled, "Questionable Color." Frustrated, I then sold the coin for a slight loss.



    A few months later I sold the coin to a dealer, who apparently sold it to another dealer, and I saw it in his case at a large show. Funny thing....... this time it was in a PCGS/CAC holder with an asking price that was many multiples of what I sold it for.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a great lesson, isn't it Bryce? It's happened to lots of us.



    If I disagree with the TPG it gets resubmitted. I've always gotten the coin graded, eventually. Here's an MPL that I didn't disagree on, so it lives in a 2x2.

    Lance.



    imageimage
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    this one was too pretty five times (across two TPG) before its final submission to PCGS



    image
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Holy Cow, 5 Times! image
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
    Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners. :smile:
  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,961 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't own this one anymore but wish I still did. PCGS called it cleaned.
    imageimage
  • BGBG Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,432 ✭✭✭
    great thread

    i'm about to start my 2nd box of genny's



    great coins in this thread here so far



    this was on my last submission and i think it falls in that category of it being too pretty to grade

    one time in perhaps

    as i'll submit this again even though it's just a 1980-P dime

    image
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    92 Questionable color twice....

    Proof though!

    image

    Happy, humble, honored and proud recipient of the “You Suck” award 10/22/2014

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,732 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How is that Booker T. Washington toned AT? I have seen many such - thats how they looked NOT dipped...
    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • cointimecointime Posts: 2,014 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If this coin was cleaned, it wasn't by me. One may say questionable toning, but not cleaned.



    Cert# Lookup

    image

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file