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Who is the most overpriced player in sports cards and memorabilia
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I say Bo Jackson and Penny Hardaway have to be the most overpriced . Bo Jackson autograph cards . Penny Hardaway inserts autographed and non-autographed sell for more than they should. Neither guy will be a Hall of Famers. Also Don Mattingly .
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George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Anyone whose flippy label includes the name "Dmitri Young Collection".
yeah, that clemente card was certainly overpaid on. no way that guy ever turns a profit!
same goes w/ that rose, aaron, banks, musial, etc.
poor fellas!
Retired players seem to largely be governed by supply/demand. So while we may not always agree with the prices of say Mantle vs. Mays, the speculation is pretty much over, and they're commanding the prices people have historically paid.
Who would his counterpart be in vintage?
but that 1959 fleer stooges #1 curly card draws some absolutely monumental numbers!!
don't want this to seem a knock (knuck, knuck) but:
8's - go for $6000+
8.5's - go for $13,000
9's - not sure if there is a recorded sale, but assume $50K+
Mickey Mantle should be one of the most valued cards in each of the sets it appears however it is hyper inflated due to baby boomer appeal. It should eventually be on par with Mays.
1965 Joe Namath is insanely priced for a guy sub par Hall of Famer that should not even be in the Hall. All his cards for that matter are over valued.
1969 Brian Piccolo
1962 Ernie Davis
1986-87 Michael Jordan - The sheer amount of how many of those cards are out there really makes it's price ridiculous.
Just an opinion of course.
Michael Jordan, hands down.
I think you misread. He is asking for overpriced, not underpriced.
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huh?? this guy is one of the greatest athletes of all-time. did barry sanders make the all-star team and hit 32 hr's in one season? and his cards aren't that expensive. aaron, mays and williams were all better than mantle, yet mantle runs laps around their cards. i would say mantle is the most overhyped overpriced card out there and it's not even close.
Barry probably made All-Pro plenty of times and is the all-time rushing leader, doesn't that count?
But yes I know this is the opposite of the original topic but Willie Mays and to a lesser extent Aaron are in fact undervalued compared to Mantle. Sure Mantle is the true "Mr. October" (18 World Series HR's and seven(?) championships, need I say more?) but Willie Mays is the greatest all around player (even better than Ruth I think, though Ruth had a bigger impact in terms of history) and of course Hank Aaron is the all time HR champ (swollen head 'roids guy doesn't count of course). So yes, Mays and Aaron are quite undervalued compared to Mantle.
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huh?? this guy is one of the greatest athletes of all-time. did barry sanders make the all-star team and hit 32 hr's in one season? and his cards aren't that expensive. aaron, mays and williams were all better than mantle, yet mantle runs laps around their cards. i would say mantle is the most overhyped overpriced card out there and it's not even close.
Barry probably made All-Pro plenty of times and is the all-time rushing leader, doesn't that count?
But yes I know this is the opposite of the original topic but Willie Mays and to a lesser extent Aaron are in fact undervalued compared to Mantle. Sure Mantle is the true "Mr. October" (18 World Series HR's and seven(?) championships, need I say more?) but Willie Mays is the greatest all around player (even better than Ruth I think, though Ruth had a bigger impact in terms of history) and of course Hank Aaron is the all time HR champ (swollen head 'roids guy doesn't count of course). So yes, Mays and Aaron are quite undervalued compared to Mantle.
Barry, the all-time rushing leader?? He retired (quit by fax) before he ever broke Payton's record at that time.
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None are overpriced. One pays what one is willing.
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Mickey Mantle certainly is overpriced . Joe Namath is Overpriced as well . It is the New York and the 1960s really. Look at Len Dawson vs. Joe Namath . Len Dawson's 1963 Fleer has to be at least 5 to 10 rarer than Namath 1965 Topps.
Love the Len Dawson mention. He's a hall of famer and would have had even better stats but he didn't get to play until about his fifth year as a pro when the Steelers, (or Browns, memory fading) traded him to the Dallas Texans, who moved to KC. I've always wanted to do his basic player set. Only QB to bring us a Super Bowl, Joe Montana couldn't even do that.
Len is still going strong as a color commentator on Chiefs radio network.
(this post underscores that everyone has an opinion but, ultimately, its the market that drives the pricing/values)
Simply put, the above opinion isn't going to happen!
If the market can get a specific pricepoint, its going to get that price until the market goes away and those who depend on making money in the market begin missing meals.
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+1! Only 4 100 RBI seasons,hit only 30 or more doubles ONCE!,led league in strikeouts 5 times! Well below average defensively with over a negative 10 dWAR career! Most comparable to Eddie Mathews. WAY OVERPRICED!
I'm going to paraphrase the esteemed sports editor of THE CHICAGO TRIBUNE, Dave Condon, at the time Mickey Mantle retired from baseball. Dave observed that Mickey Mantle was the greatest New York Yankee of them all.
You know, if you guys taking your potshots at Mantle somehow succeed in bringing his card prices down some, maybe I'll be able to afford some of the ones I still badly want. I don't think that will happen. As Mike Royko would famously say, "I might be wrong, but I doubt it."
As Mickey famously dressed up as a toddler for a breakfast food commercial and whined, "I want my Maypo", in real life I'm whining, "I want my Mickey Mantle cards back! I want 'em!"
Somehow, some way, let's enjoy our weekend and the Mickey Mantle cards we still have. And you can enjoy the cards you have worked hard to secure of your heroes. I care not a word what you say against Mickey Mantle; he's my favorite player. My favorite baseball cards are of Mick. He was the one everyone I palled around with (growing up in the northwest suburbs of Chicago) considered the biggest card to get, and I began collecting at 7 in 1961. Ed Mathews, Willie Mays, Henry Aaron were all nobodies compared to Mickey Mantle. Sure, they were great, and we were glad when we got cards of them. But getting Mickey Mantle was the highlight of our collecting year back in those years. I'm certain some of it goes back to how many World Series rings each of them was given the spring after their World Series triumph(s). If you're just unhappy because the cards of the guy you adore aren't valued all that much, play "The Glad Game" of Polyanna. Be glad they weren't THAT good or great enough to have former kids pay high three-, four-, five-, six-, and perhaps one day seven figures for one of their baseball cards. Now hold on, I jolly well know Big Ed, Say Hey, and Hammerin' Hank all have cards in the five figure range. They just don't have very many of them.
It's all good, guys. We love our hobby. I just get enraged when PSA does not know how to value some things, or assign weight numbers.
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However, it shan't shut me up.
Yeah, us Mantle collectors ought to get together, but maybe we'd all be too scared to do so. If we all just brought contraptions with scans of our Mantles, as we load 'em up on here, that will allow us to all sleep better.
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remember that Joe was 37 and coming off an injury that kept him out of football for 2 years when he came to the Chiefs. Len Dawson however was definitely one of the great QB's in the history of football and it could be argued that he and not Johnny Unitas was the greatest QB in the 60's.
Who says Johnny Unitas is the greatest QB of the 1960's?
Question, how many Championships did Unitas lead the Colts to in the
decade of the 1960's?
Answer : zero.
How many playoff wins did Johnny U. have in the 1960's?
Answer : zero.
Who had the most TD passes in the 1960's?
Answer : Sonny Jurgensen.
What QB won the most playoff games and Championships during the 1960's?
Answer: Just look a little left of your screen.
I rest my case.
A players greatness in the NFL is almost always determined by what team they land on. A perfect example is Terry Bradshaw and Archie Manning. Has Archie landed on the Steelers and Terry landed on the Saints I can all but guarantee you that Archie would have the HoF bust while Terry would just be that QB that played for those horrible Saints teams. My top 5 list for the 60's is as follows...
1.Len Dawson
2.Bart Starr
3.Sonny Jurgenson
4.Fran Tarkenton
5.Johnny Unitas
Minnesota was an expansion team in 1961, by 1964 they were 8-5-1, look at the Giants record in 1966 and then in 1967 when Fran got there.
Talk about "what-ifs" Fran wins a couple of Super Bowls and lots of people consider him for best of all time. Now, he doesn't get mentioned. Bradshaw had a running game to go with that defense, Minnesota got NOWHERE on the ground in the Super Bowls they were in!
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However put Fran on a team like Green Bay or Baltimore in the 60's and I definitely would agree that he would most likely be #1.