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I'm thinking about having some custom 5" x 8" holders made for my type set. I'm want to acomplish a few things




Store them easily in my SDB



Have them grouped by denomination



Be able to see both sides just by flipping them over







I called Capital Plasitcs and they'll do each module for $150.






I haven't laid out the design yet, but I'm guessing I'd need about 15 so $2250 is a lot of money for plastic - and I'd have crack out most of them out of PCGS holders. And if I wanted to sell, then I'd have to resubmit which would costs thousands of dollars again to get them back in PCGS holder. And this is COIN MONEY I could use to buy coins with, so I don't know if the expense is worth the benefits?


I recall seeing another plastics company that was interested in getting in the coin holder business, but I don't recall their name.
It's really just sawing bars, drilling holes and putting in screws.



Does anybody have an suggestions?





They would look something like this:

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've always wanted to band saw & free all my tokens.



    Yet instead of loosing thousands of dollars in TPG grading could just go ahead and do a secondary raw set.



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  • emzeeemzee Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭
    Coins in Capital plastic holders tone quickly as compared to tpg holders, something to think about, especially if you plan to store copper.



    Michael
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Get another safe deposit box

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Too bad PCGS doesn't offer a mini-slab option, and mini-slab albums. Could be great for the market.
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Somebody did almost the same thing a few years back and about half of the coins did not get back into problem free holders think real hard if you really want to do all the cracking.



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  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    "I recall seeing another plastics company that was interested in getting in the coin holder business, but I don't recall their name."



    I mentioned a couple of years ago that Jaco Products purchased Capital Plastics, and was seeking to expand their line of coin holders. Don't think of the same old Capital Plastics when you think of coin holders. They have seriously expanded their line of holders, including unlimited options for custom holders.
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  • TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    Originally posted by: TopographicOceans
    I'm thinking about having some custom 5" x 8" holders made for my type set. I'm want to acomplish a few things

    Store them easily in my SDB

    Have them grouped by denomination

    Be able to see both sides just by flipping them over


    I called Capital Plasitcs and they'll do each module for $150.

    I haven't laid out the design yet, but I'm guessing I'd need about 15 so $2250 is a lot of money for plastic - and I'd have crack out most of them out of PCGS holders. And if I wanted to sell, then I'd have to resubmit which would costs thousands of dollars again to get them back in PCGS holder. And this is COIN MONEY I could use to buy coins with, so I don't know if the expense is worth the benefits?



    I recall seeing another plastics company that was interested in getting in the coin holder business, but I don't recall their name.
    It's really just sawing bars, drilling holes and putting in screws.


    Does anybody have an suggestions?

    I'm not understanding your motivation. You want to move to 5" x 8" holders which would be bigger than PCGS holders where you say your coins currently reside. You can flip over PCGS folders just like any other folder. And for your SDB, wouldn't it fit fewer coins if they're in a larger holder? And you can group PCGS coins by denomination.

    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: MrEureka

    Too bad PCGS doesn't offer a mini-slab option, and mini-slab albums. Could be great for the market.




    A GREAT idea! Either or both a round capsule type holder or a square 2' x 2" rectangular holder , the size of a snap-lock would be quite useful and save a LOT of space.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    money spent on endless slabbing fees and presentation might better be spent on more coins, but that is a personal choice. Capital Plastics is a good choice and located about 15 miles from me unless they recently moved.
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: MrEureka
    Too bad PCGS doesn't offer a mini-slab option, and mini-slab albums. Could be great for the market.

    That is exactly what I want. Little 2x2 slabs that interlock together.
    They don't need labels, just a bar code at the top you could scan to view the label information


    Jaco did buy Capital Plastics, but their brand is still Capital Plastics


    But I'd like a series of holders to hold a type set, from half cent to double eagles.

    Capital does make type set holders, but they don't fit nicely in a SDB and I have a wider definition of coins.


    It would be nice to have the store easily in a SDB, but then when you take them out to view, they are like album pages - except smaller and in hard plastic.
    Then to look at them you take them home and can go through each block at a time and easily flip it over to see the reverses.
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
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  • coinhackcoinhack Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭✭
    That would take a lot of nerve to do what you are contemplating. I do understand what you are saying though.



    I have changed my collecting away from certified coins. I am cutting down and trying to get to just a box of 20.



    I know my collection is not on the level of yours (topo...) but the coins I am actively collecting are in Dansco albums. A 7070 type set and a set of Morgan Dollars. For me, this has been much more satisfying. The set of Morgan dollars, if they were all certified would fill 5 boxes of 20. Hauling that out to show someone is about as welcome as hauling out an 8 mm movie projector to show old family movies. Even other collectors are not interested in wading through that. The Dansco albums on the other hand have been well received by collectors and by family members. It is neat to be able to hold a whole set of Morgans in one hand and turn through the pages. Same thing with the 7070 album.



    Best of luck with yours whatever you decide to do with them.

  • I may be able to help as one of my good friends is the head guy at Alpha plastics in Wisconsin. I will PM you.
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll echo the DON'T replies.

    Just stack the slabs.

    It makes no sense to devalue your collection in order to store it.

  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TMot99 (haven't seen him for awhile) used to do custom ones as well. Size and insert sizes.



    I had him do one for a customer holder I did for my mom (coins from birth years of her kids and grandkids).



    If you could contact him, he may be able to help, but, unless I missed a post or something, he hasn't been around in a bit.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,687 ✭✭✭✭✭
    With my job as a hotel night auditor, I have a safe deposit drawer that's huge. All I need to put in it for work is a bank bag, so there's tons of room left over for my coins.



    Sure, it's not inside a bank vault, but the box itself is exactly like you'd find in a bank and it's behind the hotel front desk and therefore has somebody in standing in front of it 24/7, every day of the year. I think it's plenty safe enough. Our small boutique hotel ain't exactly a major target for strong-arm robbers, so I think it's as safe as it would be at a bank.



    Better yet, my SDB drawer is four times larger than the one I used to rent at my credit union, is free, and accessible to me 24/7.



    Nevertheless, I am getting rid of my fancy wooden slab box I have my Box of 20 in, because it's just a tad too tall for the SDB. Just ordered one of the slimmer aluminum boxes.



    I can't say I agree with going from slabs to Capital Plastics holders, but hey- it's your collection. I can understand the need to save space in SDB's and safes.



    Originally posted by: SeattleSlammer

    I'll echo the DON'T replies.

    Just stack the slabs.

    It makes no sense to devalue your collection in order to store it.


    Afraid I have to agree with the 'Slammer on this.




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  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for pointing out the reality about the big risk of losing value in my collection.

    My #1 goal is to enjoy them more when viewing and that’s why I think having them grouped together would be nice. But they also would need to fit in a “normal” SDB’s since that is where they are 99% of the time.

    I have two normal sized ones that each hold 168 slabs, and one large one for slabs and bigger items.

    I’ve defined my type set as the US coin varieties defined in the Redbook and there are 186 coins.

    Some I’ll never own, like a $4 Stella or a 1907 HR double eagle.

    I have 367 coins in my type set and 656 other coins in my collection that I acquired over a lifetime. So I have a lot of duplicates and things that need weeding out.

    Most of the value are the early coins, and the value comes from being in the PCGS holders, so I guess I need to keep those there. Maybe I need to do a box of 20 (or two) and move the rest to holders?

    Only about a dozen people have viewed my collection, and the vast majority aren’t interested – even the ones that will inherit them. But I’d like to be able to view them like in an album, but with smaller “pages” that can fit in SDB’s. I guess I need to do more thinking about it.
    Thanks.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,687 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I do understand what you're getting at, and I salute you for being one who still enjoys his coins in person.



    True, embarrassing confession: I don't "visit" with mine too terribly often, once they go into the SDB. I mean, it's nice to know they're there whenever I want to see them, but I generally look at them in the pictures on my collection threads online.



    Truth be told, my eyesight ain't what it used to be. I'm getting too farsighted to even read the dates or any of the lettering on coins anymore, even with my reading glasses on. I need a loupe for just about everything now. Maybe it's time for real glasses. Ugh. At least I can still get by without specs when I'm driving and stuff. Just not when I'm reading small print or looking at coins.



    I would suggest you make some nice digital albums, be it on Photobucket or the Registry, or like I do on the forum itself, with one master thread linking all the indivdual coin threads together. Then again, with you mentioning over a thousand coins, I guess that last isn't terribly feasible.



    Yes, I would condense down to some Boxes of 20. Maybe a PCGS Box of 20 and an NGC Box of 20. Or categorized Boxes of 20. Whatever works for you. But don't waste money on expensive custom plastic holders after you've trashed the expensive TPG plastic holders. That doesn't make any sense, particularly when you consider the TPG slabs will add value and the custom holders, while handsome and enjoyable, will not. In fact, they will be a wasted investment from a monetary standpoint even if they're pretty.



    And adding and removing coins from a custom mult-coin holder gets tiresome. The holder gets scuffed up ever so slightly every time you do it, and there are those screws, and... well you know what I mean.

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