What do you think of these 1960 Aaron & Mantle cards?
stevegarveyfan
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I recently purchased these, and they are really pretty. I do have some doubt as to their authenticity. Thoughts?
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As I said, I hope I'm wrong, but I've got a bad feeling about this, Scooby Doo.
<< <i>They are without a doubt, not original cards. Hopefully you bought them in a way that your money can be recovered. >>
Agreed. Didn't even have to spend a lot of time studying them to figure it out. Should be even easier to determine in person.
ETA: Scan for comparison.
This is the first time I've seen reprints of those two cards. I know the #350 Mantle has been forged before, but didn't think these would be worth enough to justify the effort.
<< <i>They are without a doubt, not original cards. Hopefully you bought them in a way that your money can be recovered. >>
^^^^^ Bogus Cards
$9.99 BIN
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-4-1960-Topps-All-Star-563-Mantle-564-Mays-565-Maris-566-Aaron-ALL-MINT-/221836535197
$2.59 Auction
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-4-1960-Topps-All-Star-563-Mantle-564-Mays-565-Maris-566-Aaron-ALL-MINT-/321816028231
$2.25 Auction
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-4-1960-Topps-All-Star-563-Mantle-564-Mays-565-Maris-566-Aaron-ALL-MINT-/321823212120
<< <i>Thank you all. I was afraid of that. I think I can get my money back on these. I really appreciate everyone's input. >>
So this is the one you bought? And then this one from the same seller even though they are both listed in the title and description as reprints? Then post a thread asking if they are real?
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HA!! That made me giggle a bit.
What gave it away OP?
<< <i>WTF?!? >>
This is going to get interesting. Not to be missed: there is no "reprint" text on the cards...Hum....
Finally, another thread I can laugh at before bed time.
Popcorn please...
Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks.
Prefer to buy in bulk.
<< <i>I do have some doubt as to their authenticity.
What gave it away OP? >>
LMFAO
Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks.
Prefer to buy in bulk.
<< <i>I would have to guess the OP purchased these from one of the buyers of those reprint sales and didn't pick them up directly from someone who stated they were reprints. >>
You got 1/2 of your theory right; the first part
Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks.
Prefer to buy in bulk.
1960 Topps Mantle
1960 Topps Aaron
They were not listed as reprints. The guy had very little feedback history, so I was a little suspicious from the start. However, I felt that the upside potential outweighed the downside, especially given the fact that eBay would almost certainly make me whole in the event that these were counterfeit and the seller would not honor a return. It was simply a risk I deemed worth taking.
When I notified the seller of my desire to return the cards, he responded as follows: "Hello,, I was selling these cards for a freind,, he assured me that they was authentic,, im so sorry for this inconvenience,, I will issue a full refund when I receive the cards back,, and again im sorry"
Bottom line is that I felt that the potential upside outweighed the inherent risk here. Turns out my intuition was spot on, and it appears that he is more than willing to offer a refund. However, I am also not naïve and remain cautiously hopeful that he will issue a refund upon receipt of the cards. If not, I will escalate the case with eBay.
I want to thank everyone for their input on this. It just confirms what I suspected all along.
Edit: looks like he sold a few others. I would neg his account so hopefully they see he's selling fakes.
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<< <i>I would have to guess the OP purchased these from one of the buyers of those reprint sales and didn't pick them up directly from someone who stated they were reprints. >>
You got 1/2 of your theory right; the first part >>
Seems I'm batting better than .500
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<< <i>I would have to guess the OP purchased these from one of the buyers of those reprint sales and didn't pick them up directly from someone who stated they were reprints. >>
You got 1/2 of your theory right; the first part >>
Seems I'm batting better than .500
Good call. I was in the wrong also. It's innocent to sell a unmarked counterfeit for a few bucks as a reprint but this is what always happens after.
<< <i>I suppose the primary question now is one of shipping options. Should I send this via certified mail? I want to be able to prove that he has received the cards I've returned. Or would signature confirmation be the best route? Or maybe some other option? >>
If you open a case the seller should provide you with a shipping label. If he does not you can escalate it and eBay will.
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<< <i>I would have to guess the OP purchased these from one of the buyers of those reprint sales and didn't pick them up directly from someone who stated they were reprints. >>
You got 1/2 of your theory right; the first part >>
Seems I'm batting better than .500
Good call. I was in the wrong also. It's innocent to sell a unmarked counterfeit for a few bucks as a reprint but this is what always happens after. >>
Agreed on what happens after, and as Stewie mentioned these are really good fakes. I just completed that set within the past two years and initially thought they were good until I pulled out one of mine to compare. I would never have touched an ungraded #350 Mantle or raw Yaz rookie without some PD, but probably wouldn't have thought twice about those cards. Thankfully, I was only pursuing a mid-grade set so wasn't the target audience for most of the scams.