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stevebensteveben Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭✭✭
who won? what/where are the results?

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When was this? I didn't notice such a contest at our host's table on Friday.
  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭✭✭
    it was during the long beach show...winner was supposed to be announced saturday, but i never heard. i am just wondering if anyone knows.
  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,191 ✭✭✭✭
    I didn't play this time (I did at the June show), but if it is anything like the last one you do not get to see your results unless you won the contest. I guess they trash the losers' answer sheets.
    Lurking and learning since 2010. Full-time professional numismatist based in SoCal.
  • CuKevinCuKevin Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I didn't play this time (I did at the June show), but if it is anything like the last one you do not get to see your results unless you won the contest. I guess they trash the losers' answer sheets. >>



    I believe you can ask for your numerical score of you email the right person.
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  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've received countless PMs inquiring but no, I did not win.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IMO PCGS should not charge for this. It would draw more of us in and the PR upside would be worth the modest expense of running the contest.
    Lance.
  • bigjpstbigjpst Posts: 3,173 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I didn't play this time (I did at the June show), but if it is anything like the last one you do not get to see your results unless you won the contest. I guess they trash the losers' answer sheets. >>



    I believe you can ask for your numerical score of you email the right person. >>



    No they did not give the results last time even after several emails. They did give you the results a couple years ago when it was free for collectors, but apparently they did not consider people who paid $50 would want to know how they did. If I pay to enter a contest, I expect to see my results.

    PS.
    Kyle Knapp won again. I guess being an ex PCGS grader gives you a pretty good idea of how PCGS grades.
  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,786 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I tried it this year, got 3 out of 20. image

    I heard the winner got 10 right. It was fun, but I do wish they tell you how far off you were on each coin. That would make it more educational.
  • You can call Customer Service at 800-447-8848 and we can give the Grading Contest Results for Sept LB as well as the last Grading Contest. You can get the amount of grades you completed correctly. We will not have the rankings: how many people did better/worse than your score.
  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭✭✭
    we just found out *yesterday* that my son (13) won the young numismatist contest. he received this morgan:



    image



    and a free submission! we were both very surprised!



    in the future, i do think pcgs should post the correct answers and people's score. that would make the contest more fun.



    regardless, thank you pcgs!
  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Back in 2004 / 2005 I placed 2nd in one of the regionals and tied with Darrell Low in first on another.

    Could not go to the finals the last time as it was out west, as I didn't have the money to go.

    Couldn't afford it. Back before the gold boom, I was living paycheck to paycheck just trying to get by.


    jim
  • bigjpstbigjpst Posts: 3,173 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: steveben

    we just found out *yesterday* that my son (13) won the young numismatist contest. he received this morgan:



    image



    and a free submission! we were both very surprised!



    in the future, i do think pcgs should post the correct answers and people's score. that would make the contest more fun.



    regardless, thank you pcgs!






    Congratulations to your son!

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I won it.





    But PCGS didn't agree. image





    I have 100% confidence in the grades that I chose for all the contest coins. If someone else disagrees with the grades I determined, that is not going to change my opinion on them.





    I'm not really sure why I entered the contest, especially since it cost $50. Had I known that I wouldn't get to see how I scored and what the winner's score was, I never would have entered.


  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: steveben
    we just found out *yesterday* that my son (13) won the young numismatist contest.



    in the future, i do think pcgs should post the correct answers and people's score. that would make the contest more fun.

    regardless, thank you pcgs!


    Congrats on the win!!! Can't believe they didn't tell you for a couple of months though. Also disappointing to hear that they didn't give feedback to those who paid to enter the contest. The contest was much better in the past when it was free to enter and the prizes were better too. Used to get the results and breakdown of the scores within a week too.
  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Two questions.



    1. How do you know if you're on the right track if the testing results are never revealed? For $50 they should E-Mail out the results of all participants in order of finish or at least provide a list of PCGS's findings on the coins involved.



    2. If the winner only got 10 right out of 20, does that means the other ten were "market graded"? The technical grade might have been correct.
    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    if I remember correctly, the time they did this before back in 04 -05 they gave you the results showing you the grade and superlatives you noted vs what they actually were. You got deducted for each thing you missed, point per grade, designations such as FH, F RB red, cam , etc



    they also posted the top three on the web site.



    In fact, I remember the first time I hadn't even left the show yet when I was congratulated for placing second at the regional by one of the other participants.



  • CuKevinCuKevin Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭✭
    I was at the September 2015 show when they announced the winners. I have listed them below.



    The dealer division was won by Kyle Knapp 10/20 correct
    The collector division was won by Kevin Kaufmann 10/20 correct
    The YN division was won by a young man with the first name Grant. I don't know his score out of 10.
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    50% repeatability by the winners...which suggests missing MS/PF coins by at least 1 pt somewhat rountinely. And yet so many concerns among buyers who expect any slab to pin point the exact grade of any coin, at any point in time.....with pricing to reflect that notion.
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • david3142david3142 Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For what it's worth, I misgraded that Morgan posted above. I'd be willing to bet most on the forum would as well.

    I agree that PCGS should make available the correct results to all participants. This would be more useful than a simple score.
  • goldengolden Posts: 9,989 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: steveben
    we just found out *yesterday* that my son (13) won the young numismatist contest. he received this morgan:

    image

    and a free submission! we were both very surprised!

    in the future, i do think pcgs should post the correct answers and people's score. that would make the contest more fun.

    regardless, thank you pcgs!



    Very cool!
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: CuKevin
    I was at the September 2015 show when they announced the winners. I have listed them below.



    The dealer division was won by Kyle Knapp 10/20 correct
    The collector division was won by Kevin Kaufmann 10/20 correct
    The YN division was won by a young man with the first name Grant. I don't know his score out of 10.


    Congratulations, Kevin !! What did you win for your $50 "entrance fee" ?
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