Does PWCC Clear Cards From Registry before auctioning?
PaulMaul
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Just wondered if PWCC has something in place to make sure cards they're auctioning are removed from existing registry sets. I had to send a removal request for one of the cards I recently won from them, which surprised me.
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Having a seller forget to remove a card from the registry isn't that big of deal. Despite my own best efforts, it has happened to me a few times. Fortunately, there's a pretty user friendly process in place for dealing with it.
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This way if a card gets accidentally consigned to that point--removing it from my inventory tells me if that card is in one of my registry sets. On more than 1 occasion I've sold a card that was actually part of a set--which I HATE!!!!!!!
most consignors must also since I have also bougth about $50K from him in the same time period--and not 1 card has still been registered to the former owner
That said, it isn't Brent's fault. It's entirely up to the consigner to remove the card from their registry.
Steve
<< <i>I understand that Brent can't remove cards from the registry himself. However, it should be made clear to consignors that cards should be removed from the registry at the time of consignment. Leaving cards on the registry constitutes a false claim of ownership. While they wouldn't be able to enforce the rule, it would at least remind people. >>
I would NEVER remove a card from one of my sets until it was sold and I had the money. Doing so would be foolish. Yes, people should do a better job of removing their cards once sold.
RELAX it will be OK.
It may be irritating to get a card and not be able to immediately add it to your set, but having someone add one of your cards to their set, without their owning the card, could be a nightmare, especially if they are able to "steal" a front and back scan.
<< <i>I'm totally relaxed, I just find the whole process irritating. I have enough things in my life to keep track of without having to remember to add a card to my inventory days after I receive it and send a removal request. Not the end of the world, but it is an annoyance. >>
True dat.
<< <i>I understand that Brent can't remove cards from the registry himself. However, it should be made clear to consignors that cards should be removed from the registry at the time of consignment. Leaving cards on the registry constitutes a false claim of ownership. While they wouldn't be able to enforce the rule, it would at least remind people. >>
I for one like to notate the "sold" price in my psa inventory before deleting.
but it's ok. you got your ways, i've got mine.
i'm praying that wasn't you that made 13 **initial** requests in a 2 hour time span on day 1?
<< <i>I know it's another blanket of insurance against fraud.. >>
This is exactly right:
First, there are registry participants out there who will enter cert numbers they pull from ebay listings even if they don't own the card, just to add to the completeness of their sets. When I sell a card, I'd like to be sure only the buyer receives the rights to the cert number, so I don't remove it from my registry inventory until then.
Secondly, I had an experience I think I've shared on other threads here before, but a few years back I sold an item that the buyer claimed never to have received. However, they did request the cert number to be added to their inventory. I didn't release the cert number in response to the auto request generated by PSA's site, due to it being "missing". Then they had to provide scans to PSA to prove they were now the owner of the card and had it in their possession. Well, that proved that they filed a false claim about not receiving it which obviously led to a bunch of fraud issues.
So in summary, I agree w/ Jackstraw's post that not releasing the cert numbers prior to confirmed sale and delivery is a reasonable blanket of insurance.
<< <i>First, there are registry participants out there who will enter cert numbers they pull from ebay listings even if they don't own the card, just to add to the completeness of their sets. >>
This is a major annoyance.
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<< <i>First, there are registry participants out there who will enter cert numbers they pull from ebay listings even if they don't own the card, just to add to the completeness of their sets. >>
This is a major annoyance. >>
I can't believe someone would actually do that. That's got to be one of the lamest things I've ever heard.
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<< <i>First, there are registry participants out there who will enter cert numbers they pull from ebay listings even if they don't own the card, just to add to the completeness of their sets. >>
This is a major annoyance. >>
I can't believe someone would actually do that. That's got to be one of the lamest things I've ever heard. >>
I've had it happen at least 9 times on the Larkin master, all from the same 'participant'. I don't understand getting any enjoyment from having a registry of cards you don't own, but I guess at least some others do.
ETA: Cert Stealers thread
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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<< <i>was it a 77 rose psa 9 that was requested 13 times within a 2 hour time frame? >>
No.
<< <i>I understand that Brent can't remove cards from the registry himself. However, it should be made clear to consignors that cards should be removed from the registry at the time of consignment. Leaving cards on the registry constitutes a false claim of ownership. While they wouldn't be able to enforce the rule, it would at least remind people. >>
From the Rules section of the Registry...
In order to list your set as current, you must own and have possession of the items you are listing or be an agent with permission to represent a collection. (Possession may include items being held in your safe deposit box or items which you have consigned to auction.) A card or ticket is not considered owned by you if you have sold it to another and there has been a transference of ownership, regardless of buyback or return policies. Furthermore, this item should be removed from your set. If the card or ticket should return to your possession and you regain ownership, you then have the option to relist it in the registry.
Personally, I transfer all consigned inventory over to Available-For-Sale and change the status to Sold only when auctions have ended (within a reasonable amount of time). For high-dollar items, I've received removal requests within minutes of the auction closing, and I generally try to satisfy the removal request ASAP.
i understand the buyer wanting to increase his registry standing by entering the card although he prob had only just sent payment and def did not have the card in hand,