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Anyone know where can I get stainless steel staples for 2x2s? The internet has failed me unless I want to use a lumber staple gun. The ones at Staples (the big box store) don't say they are stainless or steel. They say China.

Thanks,
Cameron
Thanks,
hamster7

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You want Monel (nickel/copper alloy) staples. They are used in industries where there is high humidity such as the dry cleaning businesses. They will never rust and are readily available. They come in different sizes and you can get them from many sources including Amazon. Just google "Monel staples". I recommend them for anyone that uses cardboard staple coin holders. Hope this helps.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,760 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting. I would never have thought of this, but living in a very humid climate as I do, it bears some thought. I don't personally use 2x2s for long-term storage, but some of the stuff I sell is in them. I did spring for the flat-clinch stapler, which is nice. (I wish more coin people would use those.)

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,799 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Interesting. I would never have thought of this, but living in a very humid climate as I do, it bears some thought. I don't personally use 2x2s for long-term storage, but some of the stuff I sell is in them. I did spring for the flat-clinch stapler, which is nice. (I wish more coin people would use those.) >>



    Good point. Those staples need to be flattened. Pliers work fine but you need to be very careful that you don't damage the rim of the coin. At a coin show, I once saw a nice $10 gold Liberty in a 2X2 holder with the plastic window torn and a vertical scrape mark across the face of the coin. None of this dealer's 2X2's had the staples flattened and they were all tightly crammed in boxes. It's obvious what happened and it's a real shame hat he ruined such a nice coin..image

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,760 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I too have seen some beautiful coins marred by staple scratches and have been surprised at how often dealers who use 2x2s fail to crimp their staples flat.

    I used to use pliers but have found the flat-clinch stapler works much better, and saves blisters on the hands (I used to crimp a LOT of 2x2 staples with my old pliers!)

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  • << <i>I too have seen some beautiful coins marred by staple scratches and have been surprised at how often dealers who use 2x2s fail to crimp their staples flat.

    I used to use pliers but have found the flat-clinch stapler works much better, and saves blisters on the hands (I used to crimp a LOT of 2x2 staples with my old pliers!) >>



    If you want to save the hands and do a lot of 2x2s then something like this electric flat clinch stapler is fantastic. You can find a better price than this so this is just a reference for people to see.http://www.amazon.com/Max-EH-50F-Heavy-Duty-Electric-Stapler/dp/B0006HX536
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One problem with the staple 2X2 cardboard holders is the windows have microscopic cardboard dust particles from the manufacturing process that can cause spotting on coins---especially proof copper and silver coins. I use a clean cotton cloth to wipe the interior surface of the 2X2 holders before using them. You can also use compressed air to remove the cardboard dust.

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  • << <i>One problem with the staple 2X2 cardboard holders is the windows have microscopic cardboard dust particles from the manufacturing process that can cause spotting on coins---especially proof copper and silver coins. I use a clean cotton cloth to wipe the interior surface of the 2X2 holders before using them. You can also use compressed air to remove the cardboard dust. >>



    I learned that the hard way and now use microfiber cloth to do just that.
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,432 ✭✭✭
    industry refers to what you need as "nickel" staples

    as an ex machinist let me introduce you to a one stop buisness that has about anything oddball you'd ever need
    if you need or think something must exist...this place usually has it

    grainger is next best choice for finding anything oddball

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  • BIGAL2749BIGAL2749 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭✭
    For those who use 2x2, please google Bernie Pliers.

    Beaks are the same length top jaw and lower. In use, you know where the bottom jaw length is (not any closer to the coin than the upper jaw) and the beaks are and remain parallel from open to close. Also doesn't crush the edge of the 2x2 holder.

    Avoids scratching nuts and certainly get a better grip with the parallel jaws making full contact on work

    Really don't understand why there's not a common item in a everyday toolbox in the US. Forgot to mention they have a wire cutter on the top.
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    2x2 flips + staples + coins = scratches
  • BIGAL2749BIGAL2749 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭✭
    Sorry I haven't learned how to make into a link

    http://sbiii.com/toolspix/bernard3.jpg
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here are some stainless steel staples my cat Petunia just got. They cost about $1300. image
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,799 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>2x2 flips + staples + coins = scratches >>



    The proper way to remove coins from a cardboard 2X2 is to punch a few holes in the plastic window around the edge of the coin using a toothpick and then bend the holder so the coin will tear the window. The coin can then drop out free of the holder without any danger of scratching the coin. This is best done over a soft surface like a small towel.

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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    ...I always use plastic staples....NO RUST!......image
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  • what about self adhesive 2x2s, does the adhesive cause issues with the coins surface?


  • << <i>what about self adhesive 2x2s, does the adhesive cause issues with the coins surface? >>


    I've read both 'yes' and 'no' to this question. I do know that the adhesive 2x2s I have don't stay stuck and the coin falls out, even with crimping. So those are out for me.



    << <i>2x2 flips + staples + coins = scratches >>


    I agree. I will keep mine in pages instead of a box to help with this. However, I've determined that 2x2s are going to be a necessary evil for at least some of the coins I own.
    Thanks,
    hamster7
  • Thanks everyone! Good info here.

    Ok, so I have now learned a lot about staples. Turns out there are a ba-zillion different kinds.

    Does any have a good source for monel or nickle staples that work in a standard household stapler? I see some that have the right height and width, but I suspect are too thick.

    Thanks,
    Cameron
    Thanks,
    hamster7
  • Oh, stapler says it needs 26/6 staples
    Thanks,
    hamster7

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