1998 Topps Peyton Manning RC Auto Gold- How High and What Makes It Gold?

orioles93

I saw an auction for a PSA 10 1998 Topps Peyton Manning Rookie Card Signed Gold. You do not see these very often. How high do you think it will go in auction? What exactly makes it Gold? What is the difference between Gold and non Gold autos for this card? Link to the auction is below, and I added a pic of the card. (This is Not my card by the way, I am not spamming my own auction).

Also is this a card worth purchasing now, and holding with the hope that it goes up in the future when he retires? I think this could be a great investment piece as far as investing in cards goes.


LINK to Auction

LarkinCollector

<< <i>What exactly makes it Gold? >>


The color of the foil.


<< <i>Also is this a card worth purchasing now, and holding with the hope that it goes up in the future when he retires? I think this could be a great investment piece as far as investing in cards goes. >>


With the game 1 struggles, there should be some good buying opportunities on Manning cards this season (pre-retirement and nothing but HOF chatter)

ETA: Just checked out the listing and knowing who the seller is may keep some from bidding on it, so the stars are aligning if looking to pick this up for a reasonable price.

orioles93

<< <i>What exactly makes it Gold?
The color of the foil. >>



I believe i saw a bronze one. Is the Gold harder to find? Is the print run smaller for Gold compared to others?

LarkinCollector

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<< <i>What exactly makes it Gold?
The color of the foil. >>



I believe i saw a bronze one. Is the Gold harder to find? Is the print run smaller for Gold compared to others? >>


I know mostly from Bowman of that year, where Blue is the easiest, Silver next, and Gold the toughest w/decreasing print runs for each.

LarkinCollector

I just checked Beckett, looks like Manning was the only auto with a Bronze/Gold variation and both are priced the same so I would guess the print run is equal.

orioles93

<< <i>I just checked Beckett, looks like Manning was the only auto with a Bronze/Gold variation and both are priced the same so I would guess the print run is equal. >>



That's interesting. I wonder which goes for more or if they sell for the same amount usually. I would imagine Gold sells for more.

craig44

With peytons age and after seeing game one, I expect a difficult year for him. I agree with Larkin that now may be the time to pick up some mannings

orioles93

<< <i>With peytons age and after seeing game one, I expect a difficult year for him. I agree with Larkin that now may be the time to pick up some mannings >>



It could end up being a week to week basis thing. I can see him still having a decent season and some good games.

mtcards

Manning looked rusty more than old in game one, he overthrew a couple of sure TD's, which granted, he might have made in earlier years. I think you can compare it to Romo who looked rusty early in the game Sunday night. A lot of this is that other than practice, the veteran QB's get very few series with the starters in pre season. Compare that to someone like Mariota who got plenty of reps with the teams in pre season and came out looking like a HOF player.

ReggieCleveland

Seems like this guy gets counted out every year lately and every year he bounces back. He goes for 280/3TD on Sunday and everyone will be back on the bandwagon. I'm not betting on him this year but I'm certainly not going to best against him.

Arthur

orioles93

<< <i>Seems like this guy gets counted out every year lately and every year he bounces back. He goes for 280/3TD on Sunday and everyone will be back on the bandwagon. I'm not betting on him this year but I'm certainly not going to best against him.

Arthur >>





i totally agree 100%. Anyone have an idea about what this will end at?

Dragnet

Curious if anyone has any information regarding the print run of these 2 varieties (bronze & gold) and if there is any difference. I realize that Beckett lists them at the same price, but after checking pop reports, it appears there is a fairly significant disparity -- combining PSA and BGS, the number of graded copies indicate a near 10 to 1 difference:

Bronze Foil: 299 total graded (198 by BGS, 101 by PSA)
Gold Foil: 32 total graded (20 by BGS, 12 by PSA)

I went back to old sales and found that at one time PSA and BGS were not distinguishing the difference on the labels -- they simply labeled all of them as topps certified auto without noting the foil color. This iteration doesn't exist in either the PSA or BGS population reports however.

Perhaps they could have consolidated and updated their population reports, putting all of the graded copies into the bronze group, thereby inflating the numbers? This seems unlikely, however, as both PSA and BGS would have had to do the same thing. Also a check of VCP and past sales led me to check these old labels to see what foil color they actually were -- and lo and behold, I could only find 2 gold versions, while I found about 18 bronze versions.

I've tried searching for articles or something to verify the notion that the gold version may have had a much smaller print run than the bronze, but I've yet to find anything. Can anyone help?

Dragnet

Anyone knowledgeable about this card?