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My Gold CAC Half Dime made it into the Pogue II Rarities Auction.

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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> has a scratch if not a X in the left obverse field >>



    Nope, just toning pattern. PCGS and CAC would not allow a coin with an "X" scratched in it to be MS66+ and Gold CAC.
  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i> has a scratch if not a X in the left obverse field >>



    Nope, just toning pattern. PCGS and CAC would not allow a coin with an "X" scratched in it to be MS66+ and Gold CAC. >>



    Isn't there a tiny scratch at that location as witnessed in CoinFacts large image? No X, just a tiny scratch? And yes, it looks like a lock 67 regardless.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If not for Kool Aid and Spam, we would all die of malnutrition, around here.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i> has a scratch if not a X in the left obverse field >>



    Nope, just toning pattern. PCGS and CAC would not allow a coin with an "X" scratched in it to be MS66+ and Gold CAC. >>



    Isn't there a tiny scratch at that location as witnessed in CoinFacts large image? No X, just a tiny scratch? And yes, it looks like a lock 67 regardless. >>



    Just glanced at the jumbo true-view and it seems to be a scuff not a scratch image
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If not for Kool Aid and Spam, we would all die of malnutrition, around here. >>





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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>John called it a 67++. >>



    Well now that's it's posted here and we can talk about it spam or not... It's a nice coin but obviously has a scratch if not a X in the left obverse field. Which makes me ponder about how grading has changed as 25 years ago it would have body bagged. 15 years ago you'd see something like this in a 64 holder. Within nearly the last decade coins with scratches would show up in 65 to 66 holders. Now in the last couple years 66+. Then the sticker which ignores the + calls it a minimum 67. >>



    What you say on grade inflation is true. I bought a Washington qtr in one of those old David Hall flips that predated PCGS, DH graded it ms66 (that must have been 20+ years ago) that coin now sits in a 67+ holder. >>



    Sure, that's one example and a nice plug for DH. But odds seriously favor that if you were not a top notch grader (or your agent) and bought anything raw in the mid-1980's, you got smoked. Your "MS66" would have been lucky to be MS65 today and more like a 63/64 coin, if not cleaned, AT'd, or altered. At least that's my take on things.

    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭
    I love that coin wabbitt.

    I don't mind a bit that coin showing up on here anytime for any reason. A true treasure. I had pm'd wabbitt when he first posted this coin and the circumstances of his finding it. I was surprised to see it there at Stacks as well, I ran across it a while ago long before I saw this thread. Don't come on here as
    often as I used to. Good luck with it, not that you'll need it!!


    Edited to add, I just took the bid up unsuccessfully a few notches. Yup, it's going to go for moon money...
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  • jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>I love that coin wabbitt.

    I don't mind a bit that coin showing up on here anytime for any reason. A true treasure. I had pm'd wabbitt when he first posted this coin and the circumstances of his finding it. I was surprised to see it there at Stacks as well, I ran across it a while ago long before I saw this thread. Don't come on here as
    often as I used to. Good luck with it, not that you'll need it!!


    Edited to add, I just took the bid up unsuccessfully a few notches. Yup, it's going to go for moon money... >>



    Hope you win it too! Otherwise you shouldn't be bidding. >>



    Why not?? I would gladly pay 11K plus the juice on this coin. My 11K was unsuccessful. I can see 20K+ on it.
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  • jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭
    Pretty coin... but it's not a N/S image
  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Realone: That coin is SWEET! Too bad it was not side by side in this auction!
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sweet potato pie, mates. Nice one, Realone. And you do have a grasp on this game. I love guys who weather the storms.. and let's face it : Coins are not fun… they're great !
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,784 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Man that's a nice coin. I would be hard pressed to ever part with it. >>


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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Pretty coin... but it's not a N/S image >>



    Stars are just field ornaments... They have the same no line soap bar toning image
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Remarkable! I hope OP gets the price it deserves.

    I too would have kept that one.
    Lance.
  • DAMDAM Posts: 2,410 ✭✭
    These are some sweet looking half dimes!!!!

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    Dan
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  • ProofmorganProofmorgan Posts: 818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was the high bidder on this coin.
    Collector of Original Early Gold with beginnings in Proof Morgan collecting.
  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Awesome. What did it bring with the juice?

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Per your request... >>



    Why do links suddenly break on Stack's website after an auction? Is there a reason for that?
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Geez, Louise, now there's a little monster! image

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  • ProofmorganProofmorgan Posts: 818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I put in a cut bid pre-auction. I got an a screen saying it wasn't accepted because it was under the next bid increment. Follow by an email saying it was accepted, but a red warning saying it was under the next bid. I figured it didn't go through and went along my day. I checked the auction and was bummed that it sold for what I wanted to bid. I later got an email saying I won.

    It was $16.5 or $19.4 with juice
    Collector of Original Early Gold with beginnings in Proof Morgan collecting.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I put in a cut bid pre-auction. I got an a screen saying it wasn't accepted because it was under the next bid increment. Follow by an email saying it was accepted, but a red warning saying it was under the next bid. I figured it didn't go through and went along my day. I checked the auction and was bummed that it sold for what I wanted to bid. I later got an email saying I won.

    It was $16.5 or $19.4 with juice >>



    Good to know and congrats!

    I thought I lost some of my best wins. Definitely an interesting mindset when you think you've lost something very special and later find out you won.
  • TyrockTyrock Posts: 311 ✭✭✭
    Nice coin!
  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 6,018 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Absolutely gorgeous coin and I hope the bidding goes well for you.
    Many happy BST transactions
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,549 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, congrats to the buyer and seller! That's an amazing coin without any doubt!
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
    Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners. :smile:
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That was certainly pretty good money for that coin. As I recall, during the 2006-2008 market heat, a PCGS MS67 example of this type would have been a $20K-$25K coin. So almost getting back to those levels with a coin in a 66 holder is pretty stout imo.
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭
    Wabbit- Great coin and glad you posted it!! This has been one of the better threads in a long time around here. Knowing the details may be of help to others down the road. I am not surprised by out of the spam callers but am of the other .I am interested in the outcome but I will not be bidding. Good luck and keep us posted HERE. MOC brings back the memories. lol

    BTW it has not even been close to 10 years unless that was the starting date of when you went into business
    Mark
    NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!!
    working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!

    RIP "BEAR"
  • Wabbit2313 I have nothing to say that has not been said. That being said I would like to congratulate you on finding the coin and making that hard decission to sell. I would also like to say congratulations to the new owner as it is an amazing coin.

    Realone your coin is beautiful also, the only thing I do not like about it is the little bump spots that are raised as they always worry me on higher end coins.

    Edit to add: I understand both sides of the don't post your coins that are currently listed. It is very easy for someone to just say hey my coin is for sale can you make a post for it. I think it is more truthful to do it this way as we all know the game. Having seen this post I find myself enriched by the knowledge of a beginning to end transaction of what I consider a high dollar coin and find value in this.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>the only thing I do not like about it is the little bump spots that are raised as they always worry me on higher end coins. >>



    Why do they worry you? Just curious about the concern.
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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,784 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great little coin indeed! Cool to see another board member got it! image
  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    Wow! Congratulations to both the buyer and the seller, that is an absolutely amazing coin!
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>the only thing I do not like about it is the little bump spots that are raised as they always worry me on higher end coins. >>



    They are a visual anomaly the camera lens picks up from the clear acrylic NGC uses on their slab... NOT ON THE SURFACE OF THE COIN.
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>the only thing I do not like about it is the little bump spots that are raised as they always worry me on higher end coins. >>



    They are a visual anomaly the camera lens picks up from the clear acrylic NGC uses on their slab... NOT ON THE SURFACE OF THE COIN. >>



    I was going to say this coin has nothing even remotely to what he described seeing, so what bothered him then? Weird thing to say? >>



    If you take a NGC slab out in the sunlight with a 10x loupe you'll see the inside acrylic surface is not smooth.

    The darker the coin the more the bumps are visible.
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,160 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Realone's half dime is a wonderful example of a ultra high end 66 with real aspirations to a 67.

    I feel it is worth more in the old holder with the gold CAC sticker than in a brand new 67 holder with a green sticker. It shows that the coin is stable in its holder as it has the kind of toning that could worry a buyer if the coin was in a new holder and did not know the history of the coin. But not to worry about this coin especially if it is probably stored.

    It has character and I also really like the 1837 half dime! It is a doozy!

    edited to correct spelling
    A Collectors Universe poster since 1997!
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bump


    Hoard the keys.
  • I could be seeing things but when I do not have a coin in hand and see spots such as thes that seem to be very slightly raised off the surface or could be contaminates even if stable, worry me. This is what I was refering to.

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  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Super.
  • RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I did Pogue lot viewing two weeks ago in NYC at Stacks. This coin is a knockout, 67+ with dripping luster, an A toner!
    Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.
  • bjaminbjamin Posts: 141 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I could be seeing things but when I do not have a coin in hand and see spots such as thes that seem to be very slightly raised off the surface or could be contaminates even if stable, worry me. This is what I was refering to.

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    I would think you can stop worrying about this one since both John Albanese and Realone have seen it and gave it their ok, and John went so far and put his approval in writing with a gold sticker, I trust he would have noticed obvious toning spots and not stickered it if they were problematicimage

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