Die clash wheat or PMD?

Weiss

Found this in change a couple days back. Didn't think much of it until I walked past it just now and saw the outline of what looks like Lincoln's face.

PMD, clash, or other?

1946-S video showing possible clash

silverpop

from what i can see it's a good chance it's PMD

but without closer photos it's hard to say for sure

ModCrewman

I believe I'd call it die fatigue...definitely an outline of Lincoln's bust and not at all uncommon. I believe the bust image is essentially transferred to the reverse die after repeated striking...probably indicative of the die preparation process lacking in some area.

I'd not call it a clash.

johnny9434

got a pic of the obverse?

Weiss

<< <i>got a pic of the obverse? >>



The halo 'round Abe's head is accurate...

FredWeinberg

It's not damaged.

Die Fatigue is a good enough term.

These are common, and easy to find, mostly in the 1940's
and 1950's dated Cents.

I believe the "Ghost Of Lincoln" (as these were called in the
1960's era) is from overused dies, where the constant striking
pressure transferred the outline of the main design (Lincoln)
into the reverse die....Not a die clash.

Mike Diamond would have a more specific detailed explanation
if he chimes in.

Hope this info helps.

Weiss

Thanks, everyone. More exciting than PMD at least

messydesk

These dies may never have clashed. The outline of Lincoln is essentially a map of how the pressure from one die was transmitted through the planchet to the opposing die, wearing it out. The wear on a die where the coin is thinnest (field against field on the die) is much different than at the thick parts of the coin (design against design being thickest). It could be that sharp gradients in the thickness of the coin (where the designs meet the field) could play a role in this as well.

CaptHenway

What Fred said.

johnny9434

thanks mark.