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  • MrNearMintMrNearMint Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭
    You forgot to post the THREE 1952 topps mantles he has...no big deal.
  • SdubSdub Posts: 736 ✭✭✭
    He's only 3x VCP on the Henderson. VCP doesn't show a sale since 2012, so who knows where this one falls.

    Nice cards, but appears we will be able to view them for awhile. All 20-40% over VCP. Trolling for that Wall Street Money? Can't blame him/her.
    Collecting PSA 9's from 1970-1977. Raw 9's from 72-77. Raw 10's from '78-'83.
    Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks.
    Prefer to buy in bulk.
  • begsu1013begsu1013 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭
    and a board member.

    edit: his henderson price isn't too bad. a recent one just broke $30 i believe.
  • SdubSdub Posts: 736 ✭✭✭


    << <i>and a board member.

    edit: his henderson price isn't too bad. a recent one just broke $30 i believe. >>



    I thought I heard that. Why not in VCP? Private sale?

    Collecting PSA 9's from 1970-1977. Raw 9's from 72-77. Raw 10's from '78-'83.
    Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks.
    Prefer to buy in bulk.
  • begsu1013begsu1013 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭
    vcp is a great tool, no doubt, but it's not the scripture.

    doesn't catch everything, catches stuff w/ qualifiers, catches cards that are graded and signed and a host of other technical bugs.

    of which help or hurt the overall average.
  • DM23HOFDM23HOF Posts: 2,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VCP data is but one piece of the puzzle, and far from complete and sacrosanct. Time and again we see a wide price range within a single grade, which is essentially the premium for an example with tremendous eye appeal, relative to others in that same grade.

    This seller's PSA 3 Mantle, for example, is just the type of card that could shatter past pricing history, since one would be hard pressed to find another 3 or even many 4s that could hang with it. As to the Henderson, the card has indeed sold for 30k rather recently, in a sale that VCP did not capture. Private sales also provide great data on the market, and those sales can often serve as valuable predictors of where the next publicly offered piece may go, price-wise; of course when it comes to tracking private sales it is key that one have solid and accurate information. Lastly, with cards of this caliber, often the eBay listing in effect becomes the showcase, and deals offline are struck for less than the eBay ask-- especially when the seller has a fantastic reputation.

    Anecdotally, I can say there have been great cards I have missed and regret not adding to my collection, either because I was not aware of sales beyond VCP at that time, or myopically and rigidly clung to the data there. One thing I have found very useful is to really scrutinize each of the available past sale scans on VCP, to really compare any card I am targeting to all the others in that grade which have sold. An average price will in general get one an average looking card; above will get above, etc.

    Ah, I see begsu was posting along the same lines regarding VCP; apologies for the redundancy.
  • SdubSdub Posts: 736 ✭✭✭
    For better or worse, VCP is all we have that tracks sales. Short of spending loads of time searching e-bay archives and AH databases, VCP is the bible right now. Without VCP, not sure you could even invest/buy cards over $100.

    I don't buy PSA 10's or cards shown in this thread, so I understand where VCP can have its' shortcoming for those cards. For what I do, VCP is very accurate and gives me a avg price from which I'm comfortable to base my bid on. I probably do more than most, and look at the auctions of some of the sales, review outliers, look at bidders when the price is 10-30% over avg, look at the image of the card won (card, not the holder..), etc.
    Collecting PSA 9's from 1970-1977. Raw 9's from 72-77. Raw 10's from '78-'83.
    Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks.
    Prefer to buy in bulk.
  • begsu1013begsu1013 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭


    << <i> VCP is the bible right now.

    I probably do more than most, and look at the auctions of some of the sales, review outliers, look at bidders when the price is 10-30% over avg, look at the image of the card won (card, not the holder..), etc. >>



    sounds like you are your own bible vs. vcp, which is what i was trying to convey.
  • ergoismergoism Posts: 315 ✭✭✭
    That seller is handsome and his cards are awesome.
  • begsu1013begsu1013 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭


    << <i>That seller is handsome and his cards are awesome. >>



    musta got that outta vcp? image
  • DM23HOFDM23HOF Posts: 2,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah, but does he even lift?
  • mikelowell25mikelowell25 Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭


    << <i>That seller is handsome and his cards are awesome. >>



    Yeah, but all that is moot if he can't bench his own weight image


    DM23HOF: Don't want you to think I was plagiarizing; was writing mine while you were writing yours; as they say, great minds think alike!
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    The Mantle PSA 3 is amazing.
  • flcardtraderflcardtrader Posts: 797 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The Mantle PSA 3 is amazing. >>



    Indeed it is....

    I also enjoy the brevity shown in the sellers listings:

    1) Shipping is $XXX
    2) Questions? Ask away.
    3) <display image of cake>

    <list and go to the next item>

    Beeeea-utiful!
    flcardtrader@yahoo.com
    Website
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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭


    << <i>That seller is handsome and his cards are awesome. >>


    And he'd be even better if he worked on Sundays at The Meadowlands!

    EDITED TO ADD: HOLY CRAP! That PSA 3 MICK is AMAZING!!! I'll even take the "2".
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • georgebailey2georgebailey2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭


    << <i>That seller is handsome and his cards are awesome. >>



    I would think he would be even more handsome if he was wearing midnight green. image
  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does he lift?

    Rumor has it sales of P90x and Booty Boot Camp DVD's are up on Ebay after seeing this thread.
  • jmbjmb Posts: 594 ✭✭✭


    << <i>EDITED TO ADD: HOLY CRAP! That PSA 3 MICK is AMAZING!!! I'll even take the "2". >>



    Yes it is. And it's already sold. image
  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Saw where it was already gone. Heck - I did not even have time to do some math and see what I was going to sell to try and grab it and poof! At least that saved me the rubbing the wife's back and saying "honey, do the kids really need to go to college?" image
  • elsnortoelsnorto Posts: 2,012 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>EDITED TO ADD: HOLY CRAP! That PSA 3 MICK is AMAZING!!! I'll even take the "2". >>



    Yes it is. And it's already sold. image >>



    Impossible! It was listed 20-40% above the VCP bible! image

    Snorto~
  • begsu1013begsu1013 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭
    just laughed so hard, i snorto'd! image
  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Showed my wife the card and price and told her it already sold, and she calmly asked me if I got it. I told her no - what a great wife. Now I probably have to do kitchen updates since I did not waste it on another Mantle! That card was beautiful and has great eye apparel. Worth the extra $$ above VCP on eye appeal alone.
  • addicted2ebayaddicted2ebay Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭✭
    Nice flip. It sold for $19k last month. Next guy will probably as 30k.
  • jsanzjsanz Posts: 250 ✭✭
    The profits on these buy and flip are crazy. When does it end?
    Love those 70's - early 80's packs and boxes...send me a message if you are selling because I am buying
  • georgebailey2georgebailey2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭
    The other amazing thing is that several of the cards are in new flips. Are these reholdered or does this show that these cards are still out there to find (particularly the Orr and Clemente)?
  • begsu1013begsu1013 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭
    reholdered.
  • DM23HOFDM23HOF Posts: 2,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Centered Mantes are tough to come by, in almost any year, not just the '52T. When they surface-- and the eye appeal is there in all other aspects as well-- they spike hard.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,705 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Will the seller be pass blocking for Ryan Fitzpatrick come September? image


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • mikelowell25mikelowell25 Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭
    Sorry to deflate your hopes guys, but why would the seller want to join a team that will be done playing in december?!?!

    I'll bet my entire unopened collection that he will be living down the street from Tom, Gisele and me because he wants a ring, not just to play 16 games and go on winter vacation.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,705 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Sorry to deflate your hopes guys, but why would the seller want to join a team that will be done playing in december?!?!

    I'll bet my entire unopened collection that he will be living down the street from Tom, Gisele and me because he wants a ring, not just to play 16 games and go on winter vacation. >>



    Deflate is the key word in that sentence, lol...


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • mikelowell25mikelowell25 Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭
    That's why I used it Mon ami
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭
    He's missing a 93 SP Jeter??? image


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
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