Love the folks who try to sell items off Ebay
KendallCat
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Been working on a deal for a card on Ebay which is over $10 and under a million. Emailed the buyer to get an idea of what they wanted for their best offer price so I did not go back and forth on the price. Basically agree on a price and told him I would send him payment this evening after I submitted a "best offer" price. About to send a best offer and Paypal, and buyer asks for my number to text me. Via text he says he wants to do the deal outside of Ebay but I am protected through Paypal. My gut says not happening, and if you are going to list something on Ebay and then try to sell it off of Ebay not feeling it. Not to mention he told me he has several folks offer him about what I was offering him - if that was the case he would have sold the card already. Anyone else experience this and while I want the card and I am protected through Paypal I don't like it when I get contacted outside of Ebay. Thank you in advance for the help.
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If you do the sale off e-bay, but do the transaction through paypal goods/service, aren't you still protected?
i have had positive success at:
doing the deal off ebay
pay via reg paypal via cc
actually receive said card
send lowered amount via paypal ff.
get refunded original pp amount.
most everyone happy in the end.
My gut was if he has a dozen people offering him the same $$ before me why did he not accept any of those deals. The other thing that concerned me is his feedback was 99.3 which is fine, but in looking at past sales they were all $20-30 sales with his largest sale during 100's of transactions being one for around $500.
I can always get the card for around the same price other places, and would prefer to pay an extra $150-200 to make sure I get it. Not 100% sure if he even has the card to sell based on his past history and stories he is telling me. Thank you for your feedback and input.
KC
there are a lot of ebay seller accounts being hijacked right now.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
The other option is pay him the asking price and he will pay the fees and you will both be happy.
<< <i>I would offer him 1950 off eBay so you will be splitting the savings. The seller makes 100 more and you save 100 by buying it for 1950 off eBay rather than paying 2050 on eBay. I wouldn't worry if it's through PayPal goods but I wouldn't do gift. If you are getting a bad vibe though then just pass. Especially if it's a fairly common item to track down. >>
This is exactly how an off eBay deal should be done. I can't stand it when I have an item listed for $500 and they say "I'll pay you $450 off eBay and save you the fees". They aren't saving you the fees, they are taking the fees as a discount. If it's listed for $500, the off eBay deal should be $475. Both parties win.
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<< <i>I would offer him 1950 off eBay so you will be splitting the savings. The seller makes 100 more and you save 100 by buying it for 1950 off eBay rather than paying 2050 on eBay. I wouldn't worry if it's through PayPal goods but I wouldn't do gift. If you are getting a bad vibe though then just pass. Especially if it's a fairly common item to track down. >>
This is exactly how an off eBay deal should be done. I can't stand it when I have an item listed for $500 and they say "I'll pay you $450 off eBay and save you the fees". They aren't saving you the fees, they are taking the fees as a discount. If it's listed for $500, the off eBay deal should be $475. Both parties win. >>
+1
-- making the sale!
and
-- fewer headaches through the eBay system (stars, shipping requirements, etc)
The discount should be passed to the buyer.
Both the buyer and seller have to spin the numbers up. Hitting the BIN on that $500 item knowing you've got 4-5x Ebay Bucks, Mr. Rebates, and a cash back credit card, you're paying less than $450. The seller gets the full $500 he was asking and also gets a nice normal automated and easy to process order through Ebay/PayPal, reduced shipping cost, and free seller protection. After fees, discounts, incentives, etc. he receives a stress free amount of greater than $450. If he sold it off line for the customary $450 offered by a buyer, then he's still going to be out the PayPal fees, pays higher shipping, and receives no seller protection on the transaction if he encounters a flaky buyer.
<< <i>This is exactly how an off eBay deal should be done. I can't stand it when I have an item listed for $500 and they say "I'll pay you $450 off eBay and save you the fees". They aren't saving you the fees, they are taking the fees as a discount. If it's listed for $500, the off eBay deal should be $475. Both parties win.
Both the buyer and seller have to spin the numbers up. Hitting the BIN on that $500 item knowing you've got 4-5x Ebay Bucks, Mr. Rebates, and a cash back credit card, you're paying less than $450. The seller gets the full $500 he was asking and also gets a nice normal automated and easy to process order through Ebay/PayPal, reduced shipping cost, and free seller protection. After fees, discounts, incentives, etc. he receives a stress free amount of greater than $450. If he sold it off line for the customary $450 offered by a buyer, then he's still going to be out the PayPal fees, pays higher shipping, and receives no seller protection on the transaction if he encounters a flaky buyer. >>
I agree with most of this, though the shipping is the same amount regardless. You can print postage from Paypal at the same discounted rate, regardless of purchase method.
Good luck with the direction you choose to go.
Dave
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<< <i>This is exactly how an off eBay deal should be done. I can't stand it when I have an item listed for $500 and they say "I'll pay you $450 off eBay and save you the fees". They aren't saving you the fees, they are taking the fees as a discount. If it's listed for $500, the off eBay deal should be $475. Both parties win.
Both the buyer and seller have to spin the numbers up. Hitting the BIN on that $500 item knowing you've got 4-5x Ebay Bucks, Mr. Rebates, and a cash back credit card, you're paying less than $450. The seller gets the full $500 he was asking and also gets a nice normal automated and easy to process order through Ebay/PayPal, reduced shipping cost, and free seller protection. After fees, discounts, incentives, etc. he receives a stress free amount of greater than $450. If he sold it off line for the customary $450 offered by a buyer, then he's still going to be out the PayPal fees, pays higher shipping, and receives no seller protection on the transaction if he encounters a flaky buyer. >>
I agree with most of this, though the shipping is the same amount regardless. You can print postage from Paypal at the same discounted rate, regardless of purchase method. >>
You also have Seller Protection through PayPal.
<< <i>You also have Seller Protection through PayPal. >>
If invoiced, yes, but not with FnF. It wasn't specified, so didn't want to imply all PP transactions have Seller Protection
<< <i>Seller is saving 9-10%, if he shares some of that with you what's the big deal? >>
If they'll give you a 5% discount to do it via PayPal I'd do it. You both save money and eBay foots the bill. Granted I'm sure this is all figured into their finances so why not be one of the ones that benefits from everyone else "playing by the rules".
KC
<< <i>Thank you for the reply. I actually did not ask for a price break and he volunteered it - just too many red flags for a $2000+ card. Maybe he was perfectly legit, but too many stories and requests for info and then sell off Ebay. Any time I have received a text or request to do off Ebay it does not turn out well. >>
If you have a bad feeling about it and can get the card for a similar price elsewhere, pass on the deal.
When I go against a "gut" feeling, things often go wrong.
until it's paid for..
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As a seller I don't understand why some buyers pass up an off ebay deal, especially when we both share in the savings. The seller protection is through Paypal anyways even if purchased thru ebay, so ebay doesn't really add any more value to the deal.