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I was straight faced told this in a pawn shop today

MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
We pay 25%-40% of what it's worth (gold coin)

Said they paid one guy $80 on a $300 coin & even told him what it's worth.

(Owner collects)



Can anyone beat these low, low prices?
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  • CoulportCoulport Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭
    Friend of mine owns a coin shop and bought a 50 peso from a walk in. The guy had been offered $50 at a pawn shop.
    The most money I made are on coins I haven't sold.

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  • rawteam1rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭
    .10 a gram for silver...
    And Stan says there is no $10 oz silver.... Well maybe semantically, lol...
    keceph `anah
  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Geez !!! :-(
    Timbuk3
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, I (and Numis International in Millbrae) did SWELL business pawning coins for GOOD prices.
    We got some GOOD stuff.

    I tried to loan as HIGH as I could so I could (hopefully) drive it into default and get the coins to sell.

    I remember one collection I romanced HARD!

    Mint state seated stuff in half dimes, dimes, quarters, halves. GREAT stuff.

    Offered to BUY but never could get the dang collection.

    It was NICE!
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  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A pawn shop near work pays half of spot, wish I could buy 1 oz. AGE's for $550 and ASE's for $7.50.
    Friggin criminal if you ask me, on the flip side, he's not forcing anyone to sell. Don't really know how much volume he does.
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  • I do not own a pawn shop or work for one, but I have been told by one shop that anything he buys outright has to be held for 30 day before he can liquidate the items, so in one way you can understand the price they offer, and has been stated, no one is making them sell.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    he's not forcing anyone to sell.

    this.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    My local pawn, the only one that I trust out of the 8 in the area that I'm willing to travel to, pays 70% any day of the week.
    They charge 150% of any pm given item, if you're me not me having built a relationship with them. It's called negotiation at that point.
    To forgive is to free a prisoner, and to discover that prisoner was you.
  • The best way to put rippers out of business is for people to get smart and do their homework before they go in to sell.
  • rawteam1rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The best way to put rippers out of business is for people to get smart and do their homework before they go in to sell. >>


    Who are you calling rippers??? And why exactly??? What kind of business's have you started and or run???

    And for starters, but quite lame, the bombs will drop later... why don't people do their homework before they buy???
    keceph `anah
  • Why is it that these TV Clowns like Pawn Stars and Those Pickers, buy stuff at 30 to 50 %
    and they seem to be some Everyones Hero's...
    But when a guy runs a store front business , spends thousands of dollars a month to keep the place open
    not to mention 50+ hours a week of his time,
    He is labeled a RIPPER for making offers on stuff he may or may not even want ?
    Crazy World we live in...
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  • For the record, My store pays 95% for popular gold coins,
    and sells them at 105%...
    And I am always being scolded on my low buy and high sell...
    but still here after 33 years.. Smile...
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 30,977 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>For the record, My store pays 95% for popular gold coins,
    and sells them at 105%...
    And I am always being scolded on my low buy and high sell...
    but still here after 33 years.. Smile... >>



    The practical matters are that they usually won't do better than 95% if selling on eBay and finding the one who'll pay the 105% is not easy for the average person.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FWIW, retail outlets would not be in business long if they paid retail prices for their inventory.

    The decline from democracy to tyranny is both a natural and inevitable one.

  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 30,977 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>FWIW, retail outlets would not be in business long if they paid retail prices for their inventory. >>



    True, but it's also true that they can't get that same deal from any other legitimate supplier. The best price for a 1 ounce AGE is spot + 3% from the Mint. An AP would have to mark that up too. Of course if an AP is buying from anyone other than the Mint then all bets are off about what they'll pay. You will get the most from them if you sell sealed tubes or in the case of ASEs sealed monster boxes.
  • Fortunately, all storefront stores, get free rent, electricity, security, taxes, equipment, etc. and the owners/employees are more than happy, nay joyous to work for free and dumpster dive for food and clothing. They do it for the love of the business, bless them, each and every one of them. You need a minimum 30% mark up just to keep the doors open, Wharton 101. Sure there are rip off artists, but to expect a business to work on a slim margin is just being unrealistic. Open a store and spend some time in the trenches, that's wake up call 101.


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    << <i>FWIW, retail outlets would not be in business long if they paid retail prices for their inventory. >>



    True, but it's also true that they can't get that same deal from any other legitimate supplier. The best price for a 1 ounce AGE is spot + 3% from the Mint. An AP would have to mark that up too. Of course if an AP is buying from anyone other than the Mint then all bets are off about what they'll pay. You will get the most from them if you sell sealed tubes or in the case of ASEs sealed monster boxes. >>



    but also keep in mind, Timing has a lot to do with cost...
    If I have a buyer waiting for delivery of gold, I will pay plenty more to a supplier to get it...
    If I already have more gold in stock than I need, I would want to buy yours cheaper just to sit on it...
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 30,977 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Fortunately, all storefront stores, get free rent, electricity, security, taxes, equipment, etc. and the owners/employees are more than happy, nay joyous to work for free and dumpster dive for food and clothing. They do it for the love of the business, bless them, each and every one of them. You need a minimum 30% mark up just to keep the doors open, Wharton 101. Sure there are rip off artists, but to expect a business to work on a slim margin is just being unrealistic. Open a store and spend some time in the trenches, that's wake up call 101. >>



    Any idea of what percentage of inventory walks in the door vs that which needs to be ordered from a supplier?
  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm sure they would pay face on gold if they saw a glimmer of a chance.
    LCoopie = Les


  • << <i>Why is it that these TV Clowns like Pawn Stars and Those Pickers, buy stuff at 30 to 50 %
    and they seem to be some Everyones Hero's...
    But when a guy runs a store front business , spends thousands of dollars a month to keep the place open
    not to mention 50+ hours a week of his time,
    He is labeled a RIPPER for making offers on stuff he may or may not even want ?
    Crazy World we live in... >>




    I don't find those television clowns to be heroes. I find those guys to be scripted television ignorance. I wouldn't trust sending any uniformed person to them.

    I'm not saying all business owners are rippers. I am talking about the ones who lowball uninformed people that walk through their doors, and prey on them like vultures. If you aren't one of them, then my comments never applied to you from the start.

    I commend honest business owners. I just happen to live in an area where those rippers are taking advantage of people who don't know any better. Then they brag about it every chance they get. Those types disgust me.
  • rawteam1rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm sure they would pay face on gold if they saw a glimmer of a chance. >>


    And I'm sure you would to, Kettleman...
    keceph `anah
  • rawteam1rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Why is it that these TV Clowns like Pawn Stars and Those Pickers, buy stuff at 30 to 50 %
    and they seem to be some Everyones Hero's...
    But when a guy runs a store front business , spends thousands of dollars a month to keep the place open
    not to mention 50+ hours a week of his time,
    He is labeled a RIPPER for making offers on stuff he may or may not even want ?
    Crazy World we live in... >>




    I don't find those television clowns to be heroes. I find those guys to be scripted television ignorance. I wouldn't trust sending any uniformed person to them.

    I'm not saying all business owners are rippers. I am talking about the ones who lowball uninformed people that walk through their doors, and prey on them like vultures. If you aren't one of them, then my comments never applied to you from the start.

    I commend honest business owners. I just happen to live in an area where those rippers are taking advantage of people who don't know any better. Then they brag about it every chance they get. Those types disgust me. >>


    Lol, what about the ones that don't brag?, but do 10000x better?... And have nothing to do with pm buying or selling....

    Edit to add - the ones you frequent...
    keceph `anah
  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 9,964 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Shops I go to all have to hold stuff they buy for 30 days . I don't really blame them for paying low prices in light of that. If they pay low prices it means I can buy for 11x face then I'm happy with how they work.

    Its 2015 why would anyone need to sell their stuff to a shop for 50% of melt? Don't buy things that are hard to move and make your life easy.


    just this week I sold 2 $10 face lots of 64 kennedy halfs on ebay for $155 each . Both buy nows sold within a day of listing them. Why drive down to a shop to get offered $80 each?


    Makes no sense at all.

    90% is easy to move , I tried selling some 1 oz government style bullion for a premium and got no real interest . Lesson learned . No more noah's ark coins , no more fiji turtles , no more maples , no more ASE's even. Thats just the normal bullion ........ Try selling those big ugly 5 oz quarters and be prepared to take 2 months for them to move .



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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Shops I go to all have to hold stuff they buy for 30 days . I don't really blame them for paying low prices in light of that. If they pay low prices it means I can buy for 11x face then I'm happy with how they work.
    Its 2015 why would anyone need to sell their stuff to a shop for 50% of melt? Don't buy things that are hard to move and make your life easy.
    just this week I sold 2 $10 face lots of 64 kennedy halfs on ebay for $155 each . Both buy nows sold within a day of listing them. Why drive down to a shop to get offered $80 each?
    Makes no sense at all.

    90% is easy to move , I tried selling some 1 oz government style bullion for a premium and got no real interest . Lesson learned . No more noah's ark coins , no more fiji turtles , no more maples , no more ASE's even. Thats just the normal bullion ........ Try selling those big ugly 5 oz quarters and be prepared to take 2 months for them to move .
    image >>



    Lots of wisdom right there, well done.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Moral of the story. Don't sell silver or gold at a pawn shop. Period.

    mark
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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>90% is easy to move , I tried selling some 1 oz government style bullion for a premium and got no real interest . Lesson learned . No more noah's ark coins , no more fiji turtles , no more maples , no more ASE's even. Thats just the normal bullion ........ Try selling those big ugly 5 oz quarters and be prepared to take 2 months for them to move . >>



    Let us repeat:

    90% is easy to move

    Gonna be more so, too.
  • Jinx86Jinx86 Posts: 3,666 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some customers just need the quick buck. Other want the world for nothing. I had a customer wanting 10ozs of gold today. I gave him our prices from top to bottom; AGE at $55 over all the way down to Perth bars at $35 over. The moment I said those were solid prices for the quantity he wanted he stormed out flailing his arms in the air. Ive sold many ounces to him in the past and I know my competition locally cant even match that price because we sell them their product. Just cant make some customers happy I guess.

  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,583 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coin shop here in town which is mentioned in past posts of mine bought a 78-cc morgan in raw 63 maybe even 64 for 20 bucks last Thursday.

    I have the coin ( I bought from them at 300), and now have the guy comin to me with what's left, although very little left. the other shop crushed him on the morgans.

    He was the grandson of a collector who used to buy from my long time dealer mentor friend of mine who is no longer in business, but he just went to the closet place to sell when he inherited the coins last week.

    jim
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>We pay 25%-40% of what it's worth (gold coin)

    Said they paid one guy $80 on a $300 coin & even told him what it's worth.

    (Owner collects)

    Can anyone beat these low, low prices? >>



    I could never work in a coin or pawn shop, most people have an inflated idea of what their trinkets are worth and that look of disappointment in low or NO offer would break my heart

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

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