today's sketchy 52 mantle listing:

begsu1013 · August 10, 2015 7:38AM

brought to you by:

igotonetoo!

this is from "grandma's estate".

previous sold items don't exceed $50

3 day auction

not a OBO but "offers greatly considered"

only has a few things for sale:

a 52 mantle.
a rolex submariner.

bounce · August 10, 2015 8:13AM

card looks legit, he's also got a hulk issue #1 - that's a hefty mag!

you're worried about the seller and delivery, not the product right?

lawnmowerman · August 10, 2015 8:27AM

Cool! A grandma that had a Psa graded Mantle. That's not suspicious at all lol

begsu1013 · August 10, 2015 10:14AM

100% the seller and a lifted scan.

hulk wasn't there, but seems like they are going for just about every genre:

rolex
mantle
hulk comic

what's next? guessing a coin of some sort...

one cool grandma if not.

cardsfan73 · August 10, 2015 2:49PM

They are now offering a 1933 Goudey #144 Babe Ruth too!

eagles33 · August 10, 2015 10:33PM

I don't really get how this scam works if you pay with PayPal. Are you only protected up to a certain dollar amount? Seems like if you never get the card or the card is fake then you just return it through PayPal. I could be way off. I only had to deal with a return once and was easy from the buyers perspective.

charrigan · August 10, 2015 10:35PM

The primary scam is to try to get people to make offers and agree to an off eBay deal. Then, to ask for payment with cash/MO/gift payment.

begsu1013 · August 10, 2015 11:52PM

correct. but i really think they are scamming ebay/paypal. consumers usually get refunded, i think it's the companies taking the hits?

granted it's a pain to go thru the process, but they are even shipping out UPS packages to the same town (completely random address) so it shows delivered...

then the funds get released.

your case get's auto denied because of the tracking and shows delivered.

then you have to call back in, request fraud manager, give them the address it actually went to, blah, blah, blah

by this amount of time, the scammer is loooong gone.

it just happened to another board member here and took about a week+ or so to finally get ironed out.

happened to me a few months ago, but i was pretty sure it was sketchy to begin w/ and knew the process so only took me a few days to get refunded...

it's a brilliant scam, really. feed's on customer initially relying on the auto/online "item not rec'vd" case and on ebays auto "item delivered" system.

stalls it out just long enough to do the getaway.

begsu1013 · August 10, 2015 11:54PM

system fart.

begsu1013 · August 10, 2015 11:56PM

"Hello, I traded this card with a close friend for a few items I have no more scans but these to do more I will have to go to my safe deposit box and grab the card first. As far as price you could make me an offer if you'd like"

sounds legit!

DJJazzBass · August 11, 2015 1:10AM

<< <i>"Hello, I traded this card with a close friend for a few items I have no more scans but these to do more I will have to go to my safe deposit box and grab the card first. As far as price you could make me an offer if you'd like"

sounds legit!

>>

That's just weak. What a scammer.
Perhaps tell the seller you also have a safe deposit box in Newport, NC that contains a few items he might be interested in trading for in person at the bank.

rcmb3220 · August 11, 2015 1:41AM

<< <i>"Hello, I traded this card with a close friend for a few items I have no more scans but these to do more I will have to go to my safe deposit box and grab the card first. As far as price you could make me an offer if you'd like"

sounds legit!

>>

I assume you responded with: ok, I'll wait for more scans

hyperchipper09 · August 11, 2015 1:50AM

Who are the people dumb enough to fall for this type of garbage?

begsu1013 · August 11, 2015 1:54AM

<< <i>

<< <i>"Hello, I traded this card with a close friend for a few items I have no more scans but these to do more I will have to go to my safe deposit box and grab the card first. As far as price you could make me an offer if you'd like"

sounds legit!

>>

I assume you responded with: ok, I'll wait for more scan >>

me:

how would $28K sound? I am actually only about 2 hours
from ya.....could meet w/
cash.

reply:

I'm actually in Arkansas right now will be back Friday I travel for a living. I would consider that offer when back in town
if you could put a deposit down.

- igotonetoo

well let me just get right on that!

tbonewilly · August 11, 2015 2:22AM

Tell him it's too good to pass up, you'll fly to Arkansas and meet him to deliver the deposit and fly back with him to pick it up, of course you'll need his flight and hotel info

..

Maybe respond back that you could trade your "upcoming" inheritance that is ready to be sent from Nigeria, you get the card, he gets to keep the money, all he needs to do is provide some basic information!

Or mention you have a relative working at the FBI office in Morehead City that will be in Newport on Friday to check it out with cash in hand!

rcmb3220 · August 11, 2015 2:30AM

Friday? Oh man, the day after the auction ends. What luck. You have a tough decision to make.

Edit: The seller has a Ruth goudey ending this weekend. Someone should ask for additional scans of that. They'll be back Friday so no scheduling problems. I'd do it myself but it should probably be from someone who has paid over $10 for something this year.

ga5150 · August 11, 2015 2:56AM

Does it do us any good to report these as fraudulent listings on ebay?

begsu1013 · August 11, 2015 3:46AM

item yanked. rec'vd message from ebay below:

Hello,

Our records show that you recently contacted or received messages from igotonetoo through eBay's messaging system. This account was recently found to have been accessed by an unauthorized third party, who may have used the account in an attempt to defraud other members.

We've taken action to restore this account to the original owner, but wanted to let you know to be suspicious of any communication you may have received from them. Nothing is wrong with your account at this time ? this message is just being sent as a precaution. If you have received any messages from that appears suspicious, please feel free to forward them to us at spoof@ebay.com for review.

-- Safety Tips --
-- Don't respond to the sender, through either eBay or your email provider, if the message is an offer to buy or sell an item. This type of offer may be fraudulent, and the transaction won't be covered by eBay protection programs.

- - If you received what appears to be a Second Chance Offer for an item you recently bid on, and it appears in My Messages with the subject of "Message from eBay Member," it isn't a legitimate Second Chance Offer.

Real Second Chance Offers appear in My Messages with a blue background and subject that says, "eBay Second Chance Offer for Item...". Always check for both the blue background in My Messages and the subject line of "eBay Second Chance Offer for Item?" when responding to a Second Chance Offer.

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H19881

skrezyna23 · August 12, 2015 11:49AM

I love how you guys think these things through and come up with the commennts you'd say to a con-seller. Hialrious. Can read this all day. Good catch, begsu.

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