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End of an era

I have been collecting since 1988 or so. I just drove by my old favorite card shop from childhood and was
Very surprised to see it empty and closed. They were pretty big into cards during the boom of 89-93. Over the last 10 years or so they
Moved away from cards and more into coins and small antiques, so I hadn't been in for a number of years.
I guess the days of the brick and mortar shops are rapidly coming to a close. I can remember being a young teen and being so
Excited to make the trip in and see what they had. Oh well. Waxing nostalgic. If anyone is from central maine
You may remember Downeast Coins and Collectables.

George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

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  • dberk12dberk12 Posts: 399 ✭✭
    I would always rather support the local guy but you can't compete with eBay. Bigger selection with better prices due to less overhead. The dealer and buyer are both better off selling/buying on the internet. It is a shame because everyone has nostalgia and would love to recreate that feeling as a kid as you walk into the local card shop to see what cards were available. Unfortunately that is a thing of the past.


    Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona.





    -George F. Will
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hiya Craig

    I can sure understand your feelings.

    Back around 1990, I used to be able to drive just a few miles and hit 3 to 4 shops - talk with the owners - check out their recent pickups and just browse.

    That ship has sailed.

    There is a shot near my house but after browsing for about 30 minutes, I found the prices to be way beyond anything I would be able to negotiate without potentially pissing the guy off.

    This shop that's near Lockhill Selma and NW Military was on sale on Ebay for 100K.

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    The owner who's retired civil servant has recruited his son to work there and perhaps - eventually - take it over?

    They're really nice people BTW.
    Mike
  • initialDinitialD Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I would always rather support the local guy but you can't compete with eBay. Bigger selection with better prices due to less overhead. The dealer and buyer are both better off selling/buying on the internet. It is a shame because everyone has nostalgia and would love to recreate that feeling as a kid as you walk into the local card shop to see what cards were available. Unfortunately that is a thing of the past. >>



    Still living it strong. I just got home from work after stopping by my LCS. Been going there for over 25 years

    Came home with a partial 1980 Topps Baseball Cello box (18 cellos), a case fresh 1981 Topps Baseball rack box

    and 4 packs of 81 Topps football. All for at least 50% cheaper than Ebay prices. Dangerously fortunate to still have good shops local
  • MrNearMintMrNearMint Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭
    I love brick and mortar card shops!
    The one close to my house recently closed down, the owner passed away. But I agree with the previous statement, it's easier to buy off eBay.
  • SdubSdub Posts: 736 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>I would always rather support the local guy but you can't compete with eBay. Bigger selection with better prices due to less overhead. The dealer and buyer are both better off selling/buying on the internet. It is a shame because everyone has nostalgia and would love to recreate that feeling as a kid as you walk into the local card shop to see what cards were available. Unfortunately that is a thing of the past. >>



    Still living it strong. I just got home from work after stopping by my LCS. Been going there for over 25 years

    Came home with a partial 1980 Topps Baseball Cello box (18 cellos), a case fresh 1981 Topps Baseball rack box

    and 4 packs of 81 Topps football. All for at least 50% cheaper than Ebay prices. Dangerously fortunate to still have good shops local >>




    pictures or it didn't happen
    Collecting PSA 9's from 1970-1977. Raw 9's from 72-77. Raw 10's from '78-'83.
    Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks.
    Prefer to buy in bulk.
  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,538 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All the shops in my area, save one, have closed. They peaked during the 90's boom. As well as the shows/dealers. What was enjoyable about the B+M's was the comardery/socializing. Getting caught up on the latest cardboard news and overall opinions of the market. Of course now that can be done in a much more broader way via sites such as these. And covers more of a worldwide view, one not so localized. I liken (an analogy) the B+M's to the corner bar. Where one would order a few beers or shots, they instead would visit the local card shop and "order" up a few packs from the bartender (card shop owner), and buy a few "chasers" (single cards).
    Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
  • SdubSdub Posts: 736 ✭✭✭
    I'm not your typical buyer at these card shops, but I am a entrepreneur. I just don't see have any of these places can stay in business. Regardless what you're selling; baseball cards, batteries, dog food, etc; the world has changed. LCS by me wanted almost 2x for some 2015 modern packs compared to blowout.com. Granted, i"m buying cases to bring the cost done, but still. And then the accessories, like card savers, storage boxes, etc. All 40% more than I can find on the internet.

    And selling modern star cards for $1 each that they printed 2 billion of. No thanks.

    Just got back from Cooperstown and went into about 5 of the LCS stores. Man, the crap in their is incredible. Who TF is buying this stuff? Two other stores we're closed (looked like for good) and one had sign saying retiring. Here son, take my store...work 70 hours a week and make about as much as a part-time Uber driver in Chicago; but hey...it's a labor of love. Pay rent, insurances, liability, power, furniture, accountants, website... In the end, the only item I bought was a 5X7 photo of Will Ferrall doing the cow bell SNL skit; still can't believe that shop had that photo.

    One guy (nice guy in Vets Hall across from HOF) had a table set up with a boatload of raw cards (he was smart, he didn't have a store), from early 50's to 70's. No graded cards. How long before the line of dummies paying NM price for an EX type cards runs out. Even if I was going to buy something, (I only buy vintage PSA 9 quality), it would take me months to find it in his stash, that's assuming he even has any.

    I know I'm in the minority here, but how about organizing your cards by QUALITY, not by player or year. If I walk into and LCS store and say "let me see all of your PSA 9 quality cards from 55-76" and he can gather them quickly, I would probably pay him 10-15% over VCP on the spot. Organizing cards by player is like searching for stocks by price. Smart buyers buy stocks based on value, not price; some with smart collectors.

    Pete Rose is prominently displayed throughout the HOF. Huh?? Caught me off guard, but loved it.

    Collecting PSA 9's from 1970-1977. Raw 9's from 72-77. Raw 10's from '78-'83.
    Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks.
    Prefer to buy in bulk.
  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,457 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was at Cooperstown also. I think part of the high prices is the "touristy" aspect of the place. Lots of non collector sports fans getting caught up and buying things they have no idea about.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I was at Cooperstown also. I think part of the high prices is the "touristy" aspect of the place. Lots of non collector sports fans getting caught up and buying things they have no idea about. >>

    That's what I was thinking Craig when walking thru a few of the stores. Impulse buying by tourists. I'm sure if any locals frequent the store? Prices are "adjusted" accordingly.
    Mike
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,122 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ebay happened
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Ebay happened >>

    Hiya Paul.

    I'll say!

    It was the best thing for me - especially when I decided to focus in on board games.
    Mike
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,122 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Ebay happened >>

    Hiya Paul.

    I'll say!

    It was the best thing for me - especially when I decided to focus in on board games. >>



    Hello Mike image

    And when I was into collecting it was a breath of fresh air to discover Ebay to be honest, I feel for some of the Mom&Pop card stores but my memories include getting really low balled on selling items and paying top dollar for purchases.
  • initialDinitialD Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭
    Definitely happened haha. Not the typical visit, but I'd take it everyday. Most of the time I stop by we just shoot the sheet about sports, Sox, Pats, golf and talk stories

    But sometimes there are some pretty nice finds that he uncovers from his warehouse or home that he will put it aside for me. I may have just been overdue for a score


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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,737 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice haul, Bill~congrats!


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    Yeah GREAT score
    Just don't find stuff like that at stores anymore
  • SdubSdub Posts: 736 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Definitely happened haha. Not the typical visit, but I'd take it everyday. Most of the time I stop by we just shoot the sheet about sports, Sox, Pats, golf and talk stories

    But sometimes there are some pretty nice finds that he uncovers from his warehouse or home that he will put it aside for me. I may have just been overdue for a score


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    Sweet. Love the photos
    Collecting PSA 9's from 1970-1977. Raw 9's from 72-77. Raw 10's from '78-'83.
    Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks.
    Prefer to buy in bulk.
  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,457 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice haul. Great to hear finds like that can still be found at the local card shop

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • initialDinitialD Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭
    Thanks guys. And Tim, I will be housing these cellos in the nice empty that I got from you on the BST image

    Also picked these two guys up at my other LCS recently, they're not high grade but they are clean and still as liquid as it gets

    The one on the left has a nice crease upper right, the other has some soft corner and edge wear

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