Usually, if they are not telling the truth, they will also say that the cards are not for sale, no matter how much they are offered. And their story explaining how they were obtained is murky at best, and usually involves having had them since childhood or having bought them from someone with a similar story.
If they bought them from an established auction house or similar source, it is usually more believable.
Also, if a person appears to have slept in their clothes, but is not even interested in hearing an offer for six figures worth of cardboard, I find their claim more dubious. In that case, I will usually ask them to tell me about the biggest fish they have ever caught.
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Just curious why does one think this guy would lie about owning the cards? What is in it for him? 15 minutes of admiration from a shop owner?
Seems odd to say to yourself I am going to go into a shop and lie to the owner about what cards I have. It's not like the owner would pay EBAY or auction house prices anyway so it seems like a complete waste of time.
Just curious why does one think this guy would lie about owning the cards? What is in it for him? 15 minutes of admiration from a shop owner?
Seems odd to say to yourself I am going to go into a shop and lie to the owner about what cards I have. It's not like the owner would pay EBAY or auction house prices anyway so it seems like a complete waste of time.
People lie everyday about the most mundane of things for absolutely no reason other than being able to lie. Maybe this guy isn't but maybe he is just one of those that enjoy it for whatever reason
Hopefully he didn't spend his kids' college fund to buy them from some guy on craigslist. I would ask him how he obtained them to either A. let him know if they are real or B. get him arrested if he's the one knowingly trying to sell fakes.
<< <i>Just curious why does one think this guy would lie about owning the cards? What is in it for him? 15 minutes of admiration from a shop owner?
Seems odd to say to yourself I am going to go into a shop and lie to the owner about what cards I have. It's not like the owner would pay EBAY or auction house prices anyway so it seems like a complete waste of time.
People lie everyday about the most mundane of things for absolutely no reason other than being able to lie. Maybe this guy isn't but maybe he is just one of those that enjoy it for whatever reason >>
Well said, counselor
I think 3 Ryan rookies are to much for won person anyway
Ask if the 1952 Mantle is the refractor version or the regular? I had a dealer tell me once that Babe Ruth must have spent about three months in just his town alone signing baseballs because every person that came in had a Babe Ruth autographed baseball in a safe somewhere. He had yet to see one in person though.
Either the guy's a compulsive liar, or maybe he's saying this hoping you'll think, "wow, a big-time collector just strolled into my shop". If he gets some shopkeeper thinking that way, that might increase the chances he could dupe the shopkeeper at a later time with some other cards he would offer for sale, like some fake or altered vintage raw pieces. Or even a graded card he cracked, switched, and then put back together.
Odds are he's one of those "I got" guys. See them at all the card shows. They never buy anything they just go from table to table striking up one sided conversations with the dealers, starting every sentence with "I got..."
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I would like to see one in person.
Then no. He's not telling the truth.
<< <i>What's the chance he's telling the truth? >>
Normally people with big money or influence don't need to talk about it.
And their story explaining how they were obtained is murky at best, and usually involves having had them since childhood or having bought them from someone with a similar story.
If they bought them from an established auction house or similar source, it is usually more believable.
Also, if a person appears to have slept in their clothes, but is not even interested in hearing an offer for six figures worth of cardboard, I find their claim more dubious. In that case, I will usually ask them to tell me about the biggest fish they have ever caught.
Don't waste your time and fees listing on ebay before getting in touch me by PM or at gregmo32@aol.com !
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<< <i>What's the chance he's telling the truth? >>
Normally people with big money or influence don't need to talk about it. >>
My thoughts exactly. That would also mean he owns 5% of the total PSA 9 population
Seems odd to say to yourself I am going to go into a shop and lie to the owner about what cards I have. It's not like the owner would pay EBAY or auction house prices anyway so it seems like a complete waste of time.
Seems odd to say to yourself I am going to go into a shop and lie to the owner about what cards I have. It's not like the owner would pay EBAY or auction house prices anyway so it seems like a complete waste of time.
People lie everyday about the most mundane of things for absolutely no reason other than being able to lie. Maybe this guy isn't but maybe he is just one of those that enjoy it for whatever reason
<< <i>Normally people with big money or influence don't need to talk about it. >>
But that doesn't mean they won't.
<< <i>Just curious why does one think this guy would lie about owning the cards? What is in it for him? 15 minutes of admiration from a shop owner?
Seems odd to say to yourself I am going to go into a shop and lie to the owner about what cards I have. It's not like the owner would pay EBAY or auction house prices anyway so it seems like a complete waste of time.
People lie everyday about the most mundane of things for absolutely no reason other than being able to lie. Maybe this guy isn't but maybe he is just one of those that enjoy it for whatever reason >>
Well said, counselor
I think 3 Ryan rookies are to much for won person anyway
T222's PSA 1 or better
<< <i>Ask if the 1952 Mantle is the refractor version or the regular? >>
That is way funnier than it should be.
<< <i>What's the chance he's telling the truth? >>
Slim and none. And Slim just left the room.
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<< <i>Ask if the 1952 Mantle is the refractor version or the regular? >>
That is way funnier than it should be. >>
+1, though I would add Atomic Refractor as an option
(completely kidding)
Bowman Baseball -1948-1955
Fleer Baseball-1923, 1959-2007
Al
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But that doesn't mean they won't.
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Awesome response. Love that Trump......