Mercury Dimes "Basic Set" & "Variety Set" Question.

Fairlaneman

Dense Maybe I am but I Do Not understand how a Set with the Same Coins can be Posted in both the Basic Set and the Variety Set. I know each is a Different ( ???) Catagory thus letting the Coins to be Posted.

When I Emailed BJ asking to have My Set put into the Basic Catagory I had No Idea the Set would end up in Both. What I wanted done was to have the 45 Micro S deleted from the Main Set and put into the 2nd Set making it the Variety Set. Obviously that is not what happened.

Guys/Gals am I worring about something that does not Matter or Do You think Coins that are the Same should Not be used in the Basic and Variety Sets ??? You will Notice that almost all of the Variety Sets that have the Coins are Only in that Catagory which is where they belong.

As I have Stated before I have No Intentions of Buying the Over Dates so My Set Belongs in the Basic Only Catagory. If I should Buy one and add it to the Set then the Set Should Get Moved to the Variety Catagory but as it Stands right Now all I have to do is Add it to the Set which is Showing in the Variety Catagory Now.

I Do Not think that this is Right or Fair to other Participants of the Registry. Having the Same Set in Both Catagories Needs to be Changed !!!!

Opinions Please.

Somewhat Embarrased on how this turned Out.

Ken

izzy452

I agree Ken,
Put the coins in one or the other NOT BOTH. Either way Im at the bottom of the list.

Walt

Oh by the way Ken, I went for the GOLD.

PTVETTER

I agree one or the other but not both.

a2labmom

I am in total agreement with the one or the other opinion.

Spooly

I don't see the problem? If all you want is a Basic Set... then delete the Variety Set. If you are going to complete a Variety Set then list all the coins plus the varieties to complete it.



Are you saying you should have to buy 2 coins of the same date and mint mark, then list one in the Basic Set then other in the Variety Set? That's crazy!


I think this happened because the Basic Set was not listed the first time.

DeepCoin

The way it is set up, the Basic set is a sub set of the Variety set. The differences are just the 3 coins that everyone agrees are the primary coins that are collected outside of the "normally" coined dimes.

I would like to see the Basic set kept apart from the Variety Set. If you want to compete for the 3 extra coins that are requried, then put your set in the Variety Set.

I say this because I am like Ken in that I have zero desire (or cash) to collect the over dates and micro S. This way I could avoid competition with the big boys. I will NEVER be able to challenge them and that is OK.

This would create a kind of minor league for the rest of us. It is silly and petty but I enjoy being in 11th place among people of modest means who are trying to assemble a complete colletion. We all root for each other and enjoy our chase. When you add the "killer" collections we are doing the same thing, just a lot further down the list.

All of that said, I really like all the Merc collectors and if the people with the 100% complete sets with average grades in the 66s decide to add them to the Basic set, I am OK with that.

Fairlaneman

Spooly:

To Compete in Both Yes I am Saying You should Have to buy two of Each Date.

Really what I was after was Opinions on whether the Same Set should be Allowed in Both Places. I say One Place or the Other Just as the other Members have said.

Yes the One Set is Going to be DELETED. Other Members also have this Same Situation so I Really Did Not want to Step on any Toes.

Ken

quattrocoins

Ken,

This happened to me when they added the "Varieties" to the Washington quarters. I thought that my set would move up in the "Basic" sets, but low and behold, the top "Varieties" sets were also the top "Basics"!
Notice that our friend Bill is #1 in the "Varieties", yet nessled between Mitch's Buds @ #2 in the the "Basic".
That's why I've always thought that there should be just one type of set with "bonuses" for the varieties.
I know that would hurt a lot of sets rankings, but I don't expect ot be #! anyway!

I'm still waiting for my Merc set to join the ranks of the "Basics"! I'll delete the micro "S" if need be!
If I ever pick-up the overdates, well so be it, but I'll never go huntin' them just for the set!
My #2 set will be sinkin' since some residents have moved to other members' homes!

Regards,

Don

Winged Liberty and

Fairlaneman

Rick:

Minor League. .....ROFLMAO !!!....... $15,000.00 and I am in the Minor League's of Coin Collecting.

Sort of Humbles You as Joshua Paid $50,000.00 just for His 20S Merc.

Better to be in the Minors instead of the Bleachers.

Ken

DeepCoin

Ken,

You are number one in the Basic set and a couple of your coins came from me! It really makes me feel good that I have a coin in the number one set. I know you will upgrade them someday, but that is cool. For now I can be part of your accomplishment!

Spooly

"I say One Place or the Other Just as the other Members have said." Ok I see what you are talking about.


So if I complete the basic set 100% then decide to start collecting the varieties...... at that point I need to delete my "basic set" and move it over the the "variety set".


(Spooly thinking about it)

Nope I don't like it! I always think of it as Set + varieties......... so you should be able to keep your "core" set in place.


How about this............. The "Basic Set" then the "Variety Set" But the Variety set.... just has the "Varieties" 3 coins in this case.


(Spooly thinking about it)


Nope I don't like that either!


Sorry fishheads...... Spooly has nothing at this point.


I guess I could list my Lincolns in the Lincoln Variety Set..... just to take up space!

Fairlaneman

Spooly:

You FRIGIN (Can I Say That) Killed Me with that Post. Rolling Over and Over on the Floor LMAO.

Ken

DIMEMAN

As I understand it, a coin may be in many sets. But not in more than 1 set of the same kind.

Is this true?

Jon

grip

I was going to give my opinion but after spooly posted im really confused.Aren't there other reg set's that have the same coin in different sets?.Al

Cocoinut

A coin can be in as many sets as it qualifies to be in. For example, a Washington quarter can be in the Washington basic set, varieties set, and all of the type sets that include that particular year.

Ken. I understand how you'd like to have a separate competition for those of us that aren't millionaires, but the registry is still about having the best set. The cream will always rise to the top, whether its in a basic set, or a varieties set. The rest of us will have to duke it out at lower positions.

Jim

Fairlaneman

Me a Millionair. I'm Rolling on the Floor about That One. Dog Food is a Good Meal for Me.

I just thought it was Un-Fair to have the Same Set in Two Places.

Heck I cannot even Spell that Big Buck Word.

Ken

TomB

I don't have a Registry set so there is a good probability that I am wrong here, however, aren't individual coins allowed in every set that they qualify for? I was just thinking that if the same Washington is allowed in the 20th Century Type set, the Modern Type set and the Complete Type set as well as in the Washington sets then it makes sense if coins in a Basic set are incorporated into a Varieties set. It just seems consistent. Of course, as I mentioned, I don't know all the rules of these things so I could be way off.

Fairlaneman

Tom:

You are Right. I can see using a Single Coin in Different Places but a Whole Set, Naw thats Not Right.

Ken

PS: I need that 21P You have.

Another PS: Tom: Now that NGC and PCGS both have Weighted Sets for Merc's You can Compare the Rankings Between the two. Al's Set which is #2 at NGC with a Rating of 92% of Mine is #4 at PCGS with a Rating of less than 50% of Mine. Dennis (Python1) is #3 at NGC with 66% of Mine and #2 at PCGS at 84%. All we need now is for Some Other Service to Jump in and Come to a Happy Medium Between the BIG TWO.

BJ

Hi Everyone,

Normally, when we have a basic and variety set, I set up the basic set first and then duplicate ATF sets that contain all of the variety coins into the variety sets. I also duplicate anyone's set who may have requested to be put in the variety set. Some people want to be in both sets, some people request that I delete one or the other set. Unfortunately, with the Mercury dimes, I didn't realize that we had a basic and variety set until after I did the weighting. So I did everything in reverse, i.e. moved sets from variety to basic. It took me a day, but if you go to the website now, you will see that most people's sets reside in basic.

Ken, if you wanted to be deleted from the variety set, all you have to do is ask. When you emailed me you said, "It looks like I will have to move the Micro s to My other Set which Stays in the Variety Section." I interpreted this as you wishing to have two sets running. I apologize for the misunderstanding. If you wish me to delete your varieity set, I'll be happy to do so. Just let me know. Or, of course, you can just delete it yourself.

The rules are that you can use the same coins in different sets. Basic and variety are considered two different sets. You could not start two basic sets and use the same coins in both. It's interesting though, that most people prefer to stay in one or the other set. Take a look at the Wash qtrs CS (32-64). There are 41 sets registered in Basic and only 14 sets registered in Variety. I think most people prefer to compete in one set depending on where their interests lie, not both. But the door is open if they wish to compete in both.

Have a great Memorial Day weekend.

Fairlaneman

BJ:

Please Do Not take this as Criticism. Heck I am Just trying to Get Opinions Here. The Merc Threads were Sinking so Something Had to Be Talked About. As You Have Probably Noticed Sometimes We Are Not Real Serious. Sometimes ?? Well how about Most of The Time.

By the Way. Its Saturday on a Holiday Weekend What are You Doing There ??

Ken

Spooly

Thanks BJ!


I think the collector must have atleast "one" Variety to list his set in the Variety Set.

How about you guys......"one" coin rule sound good?


I see a bunch of space being taken up in the Variety Sets that Have NO varieties!

Cocoinut

BJ,

Thanks for the clarification. Now get out and enjoy the weekend. I intend to.

'Later

Jim

BJ

I don't spend much time on the forums so since I have a little free time, I thought I'd see what's going on. I'll be off soon to enjoy my weekend... don't you worry 'bout that! I might ask you the same question... or is this an addiction? ;-)

quattrocoins

BJ,

Before you leave, can you move my set to the "Basics"?

Just kiddin',...it can wait 'til next week!

Have a Great weekend!

Best Regards,

Don

a2labmom

I think for most of us, it is an addiction, BJ. We need to get our daily fix or we start going through withdrawls.

Should my merc set appear in both lists? I only see it in the varieties, which is where I would like it to stay. so I am glad it isn't in both. Just curious, I guess.

Happy Memorial Day! I plan on spending my weekend by the pool swimming and bar-be-que ing.

Fairlaneman

Its Trying to Rain here in Oregon Again so the Annual Golf Game is on the Back Burner for the Time Being. Thats Why I am here.

Addicted....Hmmmm..... Yes !!

Ken

Cocoinut

It snowed here yesterday, but will be in 70's all weekend, so I'm going out to do some work in the yard and then play.

Have a great holiday weekend, all!

Jim

BJ

Yes, a2labmom, if your set had varieties in it, I left it in the variety set and didn't move it to basic. I only put the sets with varieties in basic if I received an email advising me to do so.

Bcsican

After reading spoolys reply what is the question?