Certified Low End?
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My bad, but just could not resist calling this one out 
With so much white on one corner, this comes back an 8 for most of us 99 out of 100 times.
Certified Low End
With so much white on one corner, this comes back an 8 for most of us 99 out of 100 times. Certified Low End
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Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
They call me "Pack the Ripper"
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
<< <i>Are you insinuating that PWCC gets preferential treatment when orb comes to grades? >>
Oh not at all, didn't meant for it to be construed that way, as pwcc isn't submitting. Just meant it seems like an error to my eyes, yet somehow there are bidders out there who are bidding as if the card and the grade are a perfect match.
With the discussion lately in the card zeitgeist of "high-end" eye appeal cards and how they have been (very deservedly) commanding stronger and stronger premiums at market, was wondering if the logical follow-through would hold, meaning that many collectors' eyes would essentially "vote down" the obviously low-end examples. I think many of us wouldn't pay more than average 8 money for that specimen, but then again there are likely thousands of bidders who don't read the boards and stuff, or who are casually doing registry sets, who aren't such sticklers as the rest of us, LoL.
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if I was subbing, would be my expectation
based on corners and centering and color
<< <i>Are you insinuating that PWCC gets preferential treatment when orb comes to grades? >>
PWCC doesn't submit cards.
<< <i>That card is nasty. Amazing that someone would pay over 1K for a card that has a touch like that and is OC T/B and L/R. Also a few print marks. What a dog of a card. >>
Which is why it is being consigned, as I don't think the individual would want to sell it under their own ID.
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
Hard to fathom four digits for that card when barely fifty bucks gets us this below. Heck, even at a hundred bucks I'd be okay relative to that particular 9.
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<< <i>Agreed. That card really jumped out at me because I have been shopping for one and looking at every option.
Hard to fathom four digits for that card when barely fifty bucks gets us this below. Heck, even at a hundred bucks I'd be okay relative to that particular 9.
I prefer the card linked in your original post. Not that it's a 9. But it's an 8 I'd be happy to own and a heck of a lot nicer than this thing above IN MY OPINION.
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75 Nolan Mint
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<< <i>Agreed. That card really jumped out at me because I have been shopping for one and looking at every option.
Hard to fathom four digits for that card when barely fifty bucks gets us this below. Heck, even at a hundred bucks I'd be okay relative to that particular 9.
I prefer the card linked in your original post. Not that it's a 9. But it's an 8 I'd be happy to own and a heck of a lot nicer than this thing above IN MY OPINION. >>
Nice use of "Thing" to take a passive aggressive swipe at another board member there.
DM, much more grace than I would exhibit in the same position. Classy response.
<< <i>Nice use of "Thing" to take a passive aggressive swipe at another board member there.
DM, much more grace than I would exhibit in the same position. Classy response. >>
No "swipe" at anybody was intended, and I think Matty knows that, hence his "grace." Perhaps my choice of "thing" was not the right one, but not meant as an attack either.
I'm also not sure why you think he should have taken it personally since it seemed to me from his post that this isn't a card in his collection, merely one he saw for sale somewhere. If I thought it was a card in his personal collection, or that of any CU member, I would have taken a different tact. I think my record speaks for itself.
He criticized a card for having 60/40 centering and a touched corner. I criticized a card that has better centering, but much more chipping. The only difference between what I said and what he said is that I was clumsier about it. Have we gotten to the point where if somebody prefers card B, somebody else can't speak up and say they prefer card A?
Of course, if I thought Matty was the owner of card B I wouldn't have gone there at all. But I still, as of this posting, don't think that he is.
<< <i>IMO, this is a somewhat predictable result of the turn from promoting *positive* attributes of cards and pointing out exceptionally *nice* examples to the flip side of identifying those cards that we would *not* like to purchase or feel to be unworthy of a particular grade. As evidenced by the bids, many people *would* like to own the card in the OP, as I'm sure many would also like to own the beautiful, centered example posted by DM23HOF. As has been pointed out, different people have different opinions and there's a fine line between expressing the opinion about what you personally value in a card and crossing into the territory of dissing on what others themselves like in a card. TL;DR keep it positive and people will be happy!
This is well stated. I usually stay out of the OMG that card sucks threads as I don't think it's fair to open auctions but got drawn into this one, will stay out of these going forward.
BUT if I was paying cold hard cash and had to choose between 1k for the PSA 9 in the auction and $50 for the ungraded, I would choose the ungraded one without a question
<< <i>Since I collect Ryans and my 75 is not as good as either of the two on this thread, I would still prefer the one graded a 9 over the non graded on if given a choice,
BUT if I was paying cold hard cash and had to choose between 1k for the PSA 9 in the auction and $50 for the ungraded, I would choose the ungraded one without a question >>
They're both graded, the label has just been cropped from the 7. 8s of this card seem to be in the sweet spot for ~$150.
I do the same with my 75 mini set. Although I search for high grade 9s, I will also replace a 9 with less than ideal eye appeal with an undergraded 8, or one with above average eye appeal.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I have a few for my basic sets, however just not a real big fan of the 75 design....
Here is the breakdown:
PSA 9 - 4 (including the PWCC auction)
PSA 8.5 - 8
PSA 8 - 18
PSA 7.5 - 1
PSA 7 - 1
Cert # 21058377 is unknown.
Love the centered example DM23HOF showed. That would be a card I'd like to add to my collection (if I collected Ryan) over the one going for, eek, over $1k!