Next card to skyrocket?
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Whats your thoughts on the next card to
Start to climb fast? The Jordan rookie has
Taken off the last few months. Gwynn did as well
With his passing and Jerry rice 9's have climbed. The
Bird/magic Rc has had a steady increase but what is next?
Let's say from 1995 and older.... Thoughts?
Start to climb fast? The Jordan rookie has
Taken off the last few months. Gwynn did as well
With his passing and Jerry rice 9's have climbed. The
Bird/magic Rc has had a steady increase but what is next?
Let's say from 1995 and older.... Thoughts?
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1992 Fleer Ultra and Bowman Mike Piazza should have a bump as he has a decent chance of making the hall of fame this next time too
1993 SP Jeter's have seen a nice increase the past couple of years....especially the PSA 9's (and most definitely the PSA 10's). I see that card increasing more over the next few years as we march toward his eventual hall of fame bid in 4.5 years. Ive been grabbing a few of the SP rookie cards as well as self-submitting several PSA 10's of his 1993 Topps card. Right now the 1993 Topps PSA 10 Derek Jeter is around $100. I can see that being between $150-$200 in the next couple of years.
Other than the hall of fame chases, I don't know. The 86 fleer Jordan rookie has seen a very nice increase in the last 6-12 months. I bought a PSA 8 for about $800 and now that thing is over $1000. I don't know how much more that will increase...but his popularity is still sky high, especially overseas.
Mantles seem to also be increasing. his 51 bowman and 52 topps have just exploded the past couple of years.
As morbid as it may sound....you can speculate on which hall of famer will "kick the bucket" next and try to cash in on their rookie cards getting the "death bump". Most recently I noticed that with the Tony Gwynn's . His 83 Topps had a good price bump right after he passed.
It's all speculation at this point. Im sure some of those I listed above will go up....some will probably stay flat. I don't see any of them going DOWN though.
I think my current vote would still go to the 86 Jordan in a 10, but honestly any of the high grade (8s and up) vintage baseball RCs have the chance to do it
<< <i>1989 Upper Deck Griffey Jr. should have a small but steady increase leading up to his hall of fame nod in 8 months.
1992 Fleer Ultra and Bowman Mike Piazza should have a bump as he has a decent chance of making the hall of fame this next time too
1993 SP Jeter's have seen a nice increase the past couple of years....especially the PSA 9's (and most definitely the PSA 10's). I see that card increasing more over the next few years as we march toward his eventual hall of fame bid in 4.5 years. Ive been grabbing a few of the SP rookie cards as well as self-submitting several PSA 10's of his 1993 Topps card. Right now the 1993 Topps PSA 10 Derek Jeter is around $100. I can see that being between $150-$200 in the next couple of years.
Other than the hall of fame chases, I don't know. The 86 fleer Jordan rookie has seen a very nice increase in the last 6-12 months. I bought a PSA 8 for about $800 and now that thing is over $1000. I don't know how much more that will increase...but his popularity is still sky high, especially overseas.
Mantles seem to also be increasing. his 51 bowman and 52 topps have just exploded the past couple of years.
As morbid as it may sound....you can speculate on which hall of famer will "kick the bucket" next and try to cash in on their rookie cards getting the "death bump". Most recently I noticed that with the Tony Gwynn's . His 83 Topps had a good price bump right after he passed.
It's all speculation at this point. Im sure some of those I listed above will go up....some will probably stay flat. I don't see any of them going DOWN though. >>
I've been going with Jeter's 93 Upper Deck PSA 10. That gold, bottom border makes it difficult to grade a 10. The PSA 10 pop for the 93 Topps is at 1402 while the Upper Deck is only at 385, yet the current market price for those two are roughly the same.
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<< <i>1989 Upper Deck Griffey Jr. should have a small but steady increase leading up to his hall of fame nod in 8 months.
1992 Fleer Ultra and Bowman Mike Piazza should have a bump as he has a decent chance of making the hall of fame this next time too
1993 SP Jeter's have seen a nice increase the past couple of years....especially the PSA 9's (and most definitely the PSA 10's). I see that card increasing more over the next few years as we march toward his eventual hall of fame bid in 4.5 years. Ive been grabbing a few of the SP rookie cards as well as self-submitting several PSA 10's of his 1993 Topps card. Right now the 1993 Topps PSA 10 Derek Jeter is around $100. I can see that being between $150-$200 in the next couple of years.
Other than the hall of fame chases, I don't know. The 86 fleer Jordan rookie has seen a very nice increase in the last 6-12 months. I bought a PSA 8 for about $800 and now that thing is over $1000. I don't know how much more that will increase...but his popularity is still sky high, especially overseas.
Mantles seem to also be increasing. his 51 bowman and 52 topps have just exploded the past couple of years.
As morbid as it may sound....you can speculate on which hall of famer will "kick the bucket" next and try to cash in on their rookie cards getting the "death bump". Most recently I noticed that with the Tony Gwynn's . His 83 Topps had a good price bump right after he passed.
It's all speculation at this point. Im sure some of those I listed above will go up....some will probably stay flat. I don't see any of them going DOWN though. >>
I've been going with Jeter's 93 Upper Deck PSA 10. That gold, bottom border makes it difficult to grade a 10. The PSA 10 pop for the 93 Topps is at 1402 while the Upper Deck is only at 385, yet the current market price for those two are roughly the same. >>
I think that the 1993 UD Gold Hologram Jeter has great possibility in higher grades. With only 127 graded compared to 5372 of the regular version, the scarcity coupled with the borders being very sensitive to chipping, etc., it is ripe for an increase.
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The PSA 9 and SGC 96 Jordan RCs in Heritage last night both went for high prices. Granted both examples are nicely centered, but both show minor wear at the corners when you view the big scans. Crazy, but a good kinda crazy...
PSA 9 sells for $5258
SGC example sells for $7170
Two classics. The 51 Mick just had two big breakouts in 5 grade, eclipsing 6k each time-- and one was not strong for the grade, which is telling.
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<< <i>No prob...
stunning Koufax and the eye apeal on the mantle is superb. zero track lines and a lot of times the black line that outlines mick is off causing poor registration and the end of the his bat/yankee emblem on his cap to be fuzzy. like this one:
your's is really sharp!
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I'm poised - waiting for all those '90 Don Russ cards to go thru the roof!
With the likes of Ruth, Gehrig, and Mantle all becoming so very pricey, I gotta think Mays and Berra are poised to break out. For Mays all his early issues-- 51B, 52T, 52B, and notorious 53T-- even the 54-57T as well. All pretty cards, huge demand, and he's a player many collectors will look to as the Mantles hit outer space.
Berra is something of a cultural icon, and his statistical accomplishments combined with all the rings, his lovable persona-- his cards may finally start to emerge from the relative shadow of his flashier teammates. He has some classics, too, from the RC to the 52T and the portraits of that great mug of his, talk about a face with character, namely the 51B and 57-- great cards.
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I can make among Mays, mantle, Russell, chamberlain, Jordan etc. Or
Something else
Trying to make the best choices for future gain
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<< <i>Well I have about 6k to spend on the wisest choice
I can make among Mays, mantle, Russell, chamberlain, Jordan etc. Or
Something else
Trying to make the best choices for future gain >>
Hmmmmm, I'd say best mantle for the grade.
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<< <i>Well I have about 6k to spend on the wisest choice
I can make among Mays, mantle, Russell, chamberlain, Jordan etc. Or
Something else
Trying to make the best choices for future gain >>
$6k to spend?
54 Aaron in PSA 6-7
55 Clemente in PSA 6-7
55 Koufax in PSA 8
56 or 57 Mantle in PSA 8
68 Ryan in PSA 8
68 Bench in PSA 8
All Aaron or Mays cards from early to mid 50's as well.
Clemens and bonds and also McGwire....do
You really see that happening?
wonder what the roy tarpley card would command? was the last card i needed and a pop 11 at the time if i recall...naturally i sent off a sub, but while it was sitting a 10 surfaced...a week later my sub hit and it got a 10. did pretty well off the one i sold but if she sees any type of influx like the pippen has, i cant imagine....
<< <i>Rtimmer.... I have heard others say that about
Clemens and bonds and also McGwire....do
You really see that happening? >>
I have put my money where my mouth is so to speak, I would imaginge I have the largest Clemens, Bonds, and McGwire unopened pack collection out there. The comparison I am hoping for is that of Shoeless Joe where as time goes by their actions either go back to famous or they are collected as infamous.
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The Lou Gehrig Rookie Card from 1925.
The player subject is a towering cultural icon, and probably remains the ideal standard of character, grace, and sportsmanship which we'd like ourselves and our kids to emulate. His peak and career statistics are among the top few in the game's history. And then there's the card itself, an undisputed rookie card-- with astounding rarity to boot. PSA has graded only 19, a whopping 8 of which have a qualifier. SGC has graded only 18. Not even accounting for crossovers and crack-outs, that makes an infinitesimal 37 graded copies of the rookie card of one of the All Time Legends.
Babe Ruth's M101 RC skyrocketed in price in the past decade, and has roughly THREE TIMES the amount of examples at large as compared to the Gehrig RC. I readily concede Ruth is the King of the sport in terms of name, but Gehrig is not too far behind, let alone trailing by a factor of three.
So when one takes into account a special combination of factors a card needs to "break out" like the M101 Ruth did years ago, namely...
1. Legendary player subject
2. Rookie depiction
3. Rarity
...the 1925 Gehrig has it all.
Because there are so few, it is not a card that hits the open market with great frequency. Yet when it has, it has been doing quite well, notably with the signed copy in Heritage hitting 35.8k and REA selling an accurately graded 4 for about $5700 this year.
I think all it will take for this card to erupt will be one splashy sale of a high grade example at a major AH. Then people will scramble for it-- but with so few available, that will create big demand for the next copy to surface, and off it goes. A Gehrig biopic from Hollywood along the lines of the Jackie Robinson film could also happen at any point in the future, fueling demand. The good thing for the card is that with the seriously limited supply, iconic player, and rookie status already in place, not much is needed to push the spotlight and demand to that critical tipping point, at which the card-- in the parlance of the original thread post-- "skyrockets."
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I think Mays and Berra, and really any of the pre-60s high grade HOFers are good choices as well as I previously posted. However, I'm not sure Mays will really "close the gap" on Mickey. He's just not beloved enough, despite all his on field accomplishments, and he's been a real piece of work to collectors over the years. Aaron has similarly done himself no favors in that department, either.
Of the more recent stuff, I too agree that Clemens and Bonds have virtually nowhere to go but up. Whether they'll go crazy, I doubt pretty seriously because there are way too many cards for that to happen. However, I could easily see their RCs doubling in price in pretty short timeframes. All it will probably take is a 40-50% HOF vote one of these years to really get that ball rolling for them.
Whether or not doubling of a $300-400 card is considered "skyrocket" worthy, I'd probably say no. But, there's probably some good investment potential there for a lot less dollar risk. And some of the Clemens 10s are actually not that easy to find, especially the Tiffany.
Also, like:
1954 T Ernie Banks RC's
Think they have a lot of room. Mr. Cub, recently passed, incredible numbers, and a legend all around. Pretty cheap compared to Clemente, Aaron, Mantle, etc
1951B Mays
Ridiculous career overshadowed by Mick. 51B and 52T are pretty affordable considering it's Willie Mays!
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<< <i>And let's not forget Berra in this mix. Icon, exemplary role model and force of good after retiring, insane amount of rings, great numbers. >>
Yup. I agree completely Matty
What about Stan Musial? Another icon whose rookie cards are nothing compared to the Big 3
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Was talking about it with some collectors who are heavy into Pre War last night-- as it's a fun topic-- and consensus for our little circle was that Gehrig RC I analyzed above. It's always fun to make prognostications and see if they pan out. Mine is that after a high grade example of that card surfaces and goes bananas at an REA or Heritage, the other 30 or so copies at large will see a huge run.
I also like the Berra early issues. Rose RC and 64 always have that huge potential lurking as well. A lot of collectors love the bold colors and remember the status growing up of those early Rose cards. And so many Rose 63s and 64s have serious cutting/centering flaws in terms of overall eye appeal. A reinstatement and resultant media spotlight could spur a fat bump there.
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<< <i>Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds- one day they will both make the Hall of Fame and their cards will skyrocket from today's prices. >>
Yep, but it will take the establishment of a veterans committee for that era before either of them get in. They're still working on the "Golden Era"...Wonder what they'll call it other than the "PED" or "Steroids Era"?
I remember as a kid, only one kid in our neighborhood had one. We'd buy packs of 88 Donruss from him because he had a box of 88D in his basement. And, to many of us, his Ryan RC in a screw down was like that golden idol from the opening set piece of Raiders Of The Lost Arc.
Sometimes I am hitting at at the park or running and I think, "5700+ Ks? 383 in a season? All those No-Hitters?" His accomplishments are worthy of a cape.
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The Ryan and Rose rooks are no brainers---- those two are always wanted.
is that a milton or just wear on the koosman edge?
<< <i>matty,
is that a milton or just wear on the koosman edge? >>
That's a darn good question. PSA graded it a ways back from the flip, which indicates regular Topps. However mistakes can be made. I have to say it doesn't look like uniform edge wear, which leads me to think Milton. But I could be wrong. Either way I am kinda like Mel Gibson in Conspiracy Theory with Catcher In The Rye on some cards, and the Ryan Rookie is one of them
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