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how weak the Eastern Conference really is..

my gawd.. I'm just amazed.. when your 2 best players (Pierce & Walker) shoot a combined 14 for 52 -> 27%!! and you still win the game.. you gotta play against a real bad team.. so anyone who states that the East will win 1 game against the West team that advances is nuts!

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  • DerrickDerrick Posts: 4,287 ✭✭
    In my opinion, I believe that they should go ahead and call the Kings/Lakers series the 2002 NBA Finals, because it's more like a Finals. You got the top 2 best teams in the NBA going against in each other...mine as well call it the Finals because whoever wins the series between Kings/Lakers...are basically the world champions because The Nets or the Celtics wouldn't be able to beat either the Kings or the Lakers...although we know that the Lakers will win...image

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  • << <i>my gawd.. I'm just amazed.. when your 2 best players (Pierce & Walker) shoot a combined 14 for 52 -> 27%!! and you still win the game.. you gotta play against a real bad team.. so anyone who states that the East will win 1 game against the West team that advances is nuts! >>



    There's 2 sides to the game (offense and defense). Offense was bad, defense was good. You notice low scoring on East, but high scoring on West. West Conference is better on offense. Eastern Conference is better on defense.

  • Dude Boston had good interior Defense last night and that's it. If New Jersey was hitting it's shots there would be no talk of Boston's defense. Boston wasn't hitting shots either. Missed open looks have nothing to do with Good Defense. In fact I'd almost say the Defense played last night was lousy because of all the open shots missed by both teams, more noticibly with the Nets.

    Check this link. Sums up everything about the so called Eastern Confernce Defensive play.

    Kittles, Nets miss opportunity in Game 2


    Like I said missed open shots don't have a lick to do with good defense.
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  • << <i>Dude Boston had good interior Defense last night and that's it. If New Jersey was hitting it's shots there would be no talk of Boston's defense. Boston wasn't hitting shots either. Missed open looks have nothing to do with Good Defense. In fact I'd almost say the Defense played last night was lousy because of all the open shots missed by both teams, more noticibly with the Nets.

    Check this link. Sums up everything about the so called Eastern Confernce Defensive play.

    Kittles, Nets miss opportunity in Game 2


    Like I said missed open shots don't have a lick to do with good defense. >>



    And you notice which conference dominate the "Defensive Player of the Year" award. The East is dominate on defense and the West dominate on offense. Another reason the West is liked more. People rather see scoring (dunking and 3-pointers) than steals, block shots, and rebounds.

  • Auto said: And you notice which conference dominate the "Defensive Player of the Year" award.


    One defense player does not represent the whole confernece by any means imaginable.
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  • << <i>Auto said: And you notice which conference dominate the "Defensive Player of the Year" award.


    One defense player does not represent the whole confernece by any means imaginable. >>



    Explain the lower scoring games.
  • UndertakerUndertaker Posts: 5,200 ✭✭
    auto? xcuse me? have you noticed the defence of the Lakers? ok, so the Kings' and the Mavs' defence sucks, but good golly miss molly Shaq, Horry, Fisher, Kobe and Fox are top notch defenders, waaaaaaay better than the Celtics all together, who only get some defence from Battie
  • UndertakerUndertaker Posts: 5,200 ✭✭
    Explain the lower scoring games.


    -> terrible offense, DUH!


  • << <i>auto? xcuse me? have you noticed the defence of the Lakers? ok, so the Kings' and the Mavs' defence sucks, but good golly miss molly Shaq, Horry, Fisher, Kobe and Fox are top notch defenders, waaaaaaay better than the Celtics all together, who only get some defence from Battie >>



    Compare the 100 point games in the Western Conference verses the Eastern Conference. Lakers is 1 team. I'm referring to the entire conference.
  • UndertakerUndertaker Posts: 5,200 ✭✭
    their offense just sucks! it's not because of their great defense!

    2001-02 Regular Season Blocks Per Game
    Player G BLK BPG
    1. Ben Wallace ( Detroit Pistons) 80 278 3.48
    2. Raef LaFrentz ( Dallas Mavericks) 78 213 2.73
    3. Alonzo Mourning ( Miami Heat) 75 186 2.48
    3. Tim Duncan ( San Antonio Spurs) 82 203 2.48
    5. Dikembe Mutombo ( Philadelphia 76ers) 80 190 2.38
    6. Jermaine O'Neal ( Indiana Pacers) 72 166 2.31
    7. Erick Dampier ( Golden State Warriors) 73 167 2.29
    8. Adonal Foyle ( Golden State Warriors) 79 168 2.13
    9. Pau Gasol ( Memphis Grizzlies) 82 169 2.06
    10. Shaquille O'Neal ( Los Angeles Lakers) 67 137 2.04
    10. Elton Brand ( Los Angeles Clippers) 80 163 2.04
    12. Andrei Kirilenko ( Utah Jazz) 82 159 1.94
    13. Eddie Griffin ( Houston Rockets) 73 134 1.84
    14. Michael Olowokandi ( Los Angeles Clippers) 80 145 1.81
    15. David Robinson ( San Antonio Spurs)

    2001-02 Regular Season Rebounds Per Game
    Player G OFF DEF REB RPG
    1. Ben Wallace ( Detroit Pistons) 80 4.0 9.0 1,039 13.0
    2. Tim Duncan ( San Antonio Spurs) 82 3.3 9.4 1,042 12.7
    3. Kevin Garnett ( Minnesota Timberwolves) 81 3.0 9.1 981 12.1
    4. Danny Fortson ( Golden State Warriors) 77 3.8 7.9 899 11.7
    5. Elton Brand ( Los Angeles Clippers) 80 5.0 6.6 925 11.6
    6. Dikembe Mutombo ( Philadelphia 76ers) 80 3.2 7.6 863 10.8
    7. Jermaine O'Neal ( Indiana Pacers) 72 2.6 7.9 757 10.5
    8. Dirk Nowitzki ( Dallas Mavericks) 76 1.6 8.4 755 9.9
    8. Shawn Marion ( Phoenix Suns) 81 2.6 7.3 803 9.9
    10. P.J. Brown ( Charlotte Hornets) 80 3.4

    notice that 10 out of 15 leaders in blocks are from the west, and 6 out of 10 rebounders are from the west.. now prove me wrong..
  • UndertakerUndertaker Posts: 5,200 ✭✭
    oh and even Shaq wasn't with the leaders.. you may add him as well
  • jeffo81jeffo81 Posts: 626 ✭✭

    Guys....the lakers might have the most talent in the league and should win.......but don't count out the underdog.....way to many times teams get so over confident they forget to come and play.

    HENCE THE PATRIOTS BEATING THE RAMS THIS YEAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL YOU RAMS FANS REMEMBER THAT RIGHT????

    Oh by the way...Celtics 2 - Lakers - 0 this year.......................hhhhmmm interesting!!!!

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  • UndertakerUndertaker Posts: 5,200 ✭✭
    jeffo jeffo jeffo jeffo.. regular season isn't the same as play-offs.. when will ppl start understanding this?
    the Spurs were better during the season than the Lakers, they almost got swepped by them.. Kings were better during the season, heck, they had the best home-record during the season, they're 4-3 during the play-offs.. Lakers have experience, they have defense, they have offense, they have it all! and what does boston have? a power forward who can't seem to shoot over 40% for his 2's and 32% for his 3's (and takes about 10 threes a game) and a small forward who shot 3 for 20 last night.. o yea.. new champions comin' through LOL

  • Good posts Undertaker.

    I totally agree. The East is far inferior to the West. The East is not properly labeled as a defensive conference. As most of us know it should be labeled as less skilled. Bad field goal percentage typically (not always) comes from bad shots or bad execution. Not from good defense. We know the NBA. Every team gets it's open looks all games long. A team not hitting open shots has nothing to do with Good Defense.
    Looking for former University of Arizona NBA RC's in PSA or BGS 9's/GEM MINT grades. Die hard University of Arizona and Bay Area Sports fan.
  • UndertakerUndertaker Posts: 5,200 ✭✭
    image
    why thank you image
    not too bad for a European guy who has only seen 10 games on tape in his entire life image
    *sigh* they should REALLY broadcast some games over here image
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