Pack Sub Pop Happy/Sad VERY CORNFUSED?
Justintime
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Ok my first ever pack sub popped a lot faster then expected. 200 packs logged in 1/8 just popped 3/9
It was mainly personal stuff I've collected over the last few years. wax and cellos from late 70s to late 80s
and of the 60 cellos i bought off ebay (Yeah I know) only 2 came back not authentic so out of 200 packs im happy.
What has me really confused is i had 15 89 fleer cellos Griffey Johnson Ripken Mattingly Etc on top. Not a single one was graded and each line says " N9 Not Graded Card too Thick No Grade No Charge". CARD TO THICK HUH? Ok im thinking maybe 89 fleer cellos where to thick for holders but then I look at pop report and 40 89 fleer cellos have been graded. So now im confused whats the deal was the grader just mistaken or what. Any ideas who I should try to contact about this or should I just resubmitt them?
On the Happy side of this sub my final score was 17 10's 82 9's 63 8's 17 7's and 3 6's of course alot of the 8s i thought for sure were 9's and the 6's have me going wth did i miss. But im pretty happy now if I can just find out why my 89 fleers were not graded.
It was mainly personal stuff I've collected over the last few years. wax and cellos from late 70s to late 80s
and of the 60 cellos i bought off ebay (Yeah I know) only 2 came back not authentic so out of 200 packs im happy.
What has me really confused is i had 15 89 fleer cellos Griffey Johnson Ripken Mattingly Etc on top. Not a single one was graded and each line says " N9 Not Graded Card too Thick No Grade No Charge". CARD TO THICK HUH? Ok im thinking maybe 89 fleer cellos where to thick for holders but then I look at pop report and 40 89 fleer cellos have been graded. So now im confused whats the deal was the grader just mistaken or what. Any ideas who I should try to contact about this or should I just resubmitt them?
On the Happy side of this sub my final score was 17 10's 82 9's 63 8's 17 7's and 3 6's of course alot of the 8s i thought for sure were 9's and the 6's have me going wth did i miss. But im pretty happy now if I can just find out why my 89 fleers were not graded.
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Just a guess on my part, but it may have something to
do with the new holders they're using.
I've noticed that the newly graded cello packs have a
"squeezed" look, like the holder is too tight. On the '80s
cellos, which are loose fitting, it causes the cellophane to
have unattractive wrinkles.
It could be that the new holders are tighter around the
edges, *and* shallower than the older ones, which could
be the reason your cellos weren't slabbed.
Gum poke-through was never a problem with cello packs though.
I wish they had kept the older slabs with the four prongs
for those.
It's all just a guess on my part though. I have no
inside information on any of this.
John
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Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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Join the Rookie stars on top PSA registry today:
1980-1989 Cello Packs - Rookies
What a haul!
I'm curious as to what you, or other graded pack collectors, use as a storage solution for these?
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James
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PSA Pack Grading Standards
GEM-MT 10: Gem Mint
A PSA Gem Mint 10 pack is a virtually perfect pack that should exhibit pristine corners and edges, which are free of any holes, tears or wear of any sort (including not having any wear to the corner folds). The seal on the reverse must be virtually undisturbed and free of any soiling or toning. The sealed folds on the reverse must also lay flush to the pack and not exhibit any lift from the seal. In addition, the pack must be "fresh" in appearance and free of any water or mildew damage to the wrapper or gum in order to qualify for this grade. There may be an allowance made for a small printing imperfection as long as the pack still shows superb eye appeal.
Note: The top card within a cello pack must be centered approximately 65/35 or better.
MINT 9: Mint
A PSA Mint 9 pack is a pack that appears to have all the attributes of a PSA Gem Mint 10 but it may exhibit one of the following flaws: a slight touch of wear on one corner (absent a hole or tear in the wrapper), minor toning or soiling to the seal on the reverse or a slight centering imperfection to the wrap. In addition, the pack must be "fresh" in appearance and free of any water or mildew damage to the wrapper or gum in order to qualify for this grade.
Note: The top card within a cello pack must be centered approximately 80-20 or better.
NM-MT 8: Near Mint-Mint
A PSA NM-MT 8 pack is a pack that exhibits similar attributes to a PSA Mint 9 but it may possess one or more of the following technical imperfections upon close inspection: slight wear at one or two corners, a pin-sized hole at one of the corners, a wrinkle in the surface of the wax/cellophane wrapping, slight toning or soiling on the seal, very slight toning of the wrapper itself and/or a slight centering imperfection to the wrap. In addition, the pack must be "fresh" in appearance and free of any water or mildew damage to the wrapper or gum to qualify for this grade.
Note: The top card within a cello pack must be centered approximately 90/10 or better.
NM 7: Near Mint
A PSA NM 7 pack is a pack that exhibits similar attributes to a PSA NM-MT 8 but it may possess one or more of the following flaws: there may be slight wear on all four corners, a few pin-hole sized tears on the corners or edges, a very minor tear in the wrapper itself, light toning or soiling on the seal, and/or a small stain, possibly due to water or mildew damage. A small allowance may be made for very light gum bleeding or soiling through the wrapper, not to reach the size of the gum contained within.
Note: This is also the highest grade a cello pack can receive if the top card is 100/0(miscut).
Note: This is the highest grade a pack can receive if the wax wrapper is a complete manufacturer miswrap, where there is a severe centering imperfection to the wrap.
PSA EX-MT 6: Excellent-Mint
A PSA EX-MT 6 pack is a pack that exhibits similar attributes to a PSA NM 7 but it may possess one or more of the following flaws: wear may be present on all four corners and/or the pack may show light tearing on multiple corners. In addition, the pack may exhibit light tears on the edges of the wrappers, wrinkles on the surface of the wax/cellophane wrapper along with other types of small surface defects. The reverse seal may have soiling or toning as a result of water or mildew damage, as long as it is not deemed severe. The gum or wax wrapper can begin to show bleeding or soiling through the wrapper, but it must be limited to the size of the gum.
PSA EX 5: Excellent
A PSA EX 5 pack is a pack that exhibits similar attributes to a PSA EX-MT 6 but it may possess one of more of the following flaws: wear may be present on all four corners along with one or two clear corner tears and/or edge tears. Under this grade, a pack may exhibit staining or discoloration of the wrapper, possibly due to water or mildew damage. The surface of a cello pack may exhibit a large split through the protective wrapping. That wrapping may also be misaligned but, in order to qualify under this grade, a sizeable portion of the seal must remain secure. In addition, the surface of the wrapper may show soiling damage from the gum or wax.
PSA VG-EX 4: Very Good-Excellent
A PSA VG-EX 4 pack is a pack that exhibits similar attributes to a PSA EX 5 but it may possess one or more of the following flaws: wear will, most likely, be present on all four corners along with holes and/or tears on the corners and edges. A severe tear to one of the edges may be acceptable under this grade. The seal may be misaligned and partly raised but a somewhat sizeable portion of that original seal must remain intact. The surface of the pack may exhibit some discoloration, staining or soiling, possibly due to water or mildew damage. A cello pack may have a couple of severe splits through the protective wrapping as long as all the contained cards are held securely in their package.
PSA VG 3: Very Good
A PSA VG 3 pack is a pack that exhibits similar attributes to a PSA VG-EX 4 but it may possess some additional, severe flaws such as moderate tears on all four corners and along the edges. The seal may be heavily worn and the pack may be visibly soiled. The surface can be discolored, stained and have heavy mildew damage that begins to bleed from the surface of the wrapper into the edges of the pack.
PSA Good 2: Good
A PSA Good 2 pack is a pack that exhibits similar attributes to a PSA VG 3 but it may possess some additional, severe flaws. Major tears may appear on all four corners and along the edges. The seal may have heavy soiling or even residue from a foreign source, which hinders the eye appeal substantially. The corners and edges of the contained cards may be exposed; however, the cards must still be held in place by the package and cannot show any evidence of removal.
PSA PR-FR 1: Poor to Fair
PSA PR-FR 1 pack is a pack that exhibits similar attributes to a PSA Good 2 but it may possess some additional, severe flaws. Severe water damage may be present where it has seeped into the pack itself, affecting the cards contained within. In fact, the pack may show signs of warping as a result of the water damage. The wrapper may not be completely legible from staining, discoloration or other wear and tear but it must remain legible enough for the experts to determine authenticity. In addition, while the pack itself may be severely damaged, some portion of the original seal must be intact.
At this time, packs will not receive half-point grades.
They call me "Pack the Ripper"
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.