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1986 Fleer Kareem Adbul Jabbar PSA 10????

JBrulesJBrules Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Is this real or another fake slab? I am no expert on card grading but to my untrained eye this card does not appear to meet the PSA 10 centering standards. Any thoughts?Kareem PSA 10

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  • OAKESY25OAKESY25 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭
    Hilariously bad - no way that is even a 7
  • charrigancharrigan Posts: 2,293
    It's a fake - look at the card.
  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭
    It does not meet the PSA 10 centering standards. Or the PSA 8 centering standards. Or the PSA 8 corners standards. That is the worst example of a fake slab I've ever seen.
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  • charrigancharrigan Posts: 2,293


    << <i>That is the worst example of a fake slab I've ever seen. >>



    I know what you mean and agree with you, but notably, the slab itself looks pretty decent. Flip looks normal. No clear evidence of tampering.

    I think that part of it is the way the image was produced -- photos (not scan) against textured surface (like countertop) makes it hard to get a good look at the edges of the slab.
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    It is a new slab, so is it possible to get a new one open without destroying it??
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,745 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It is a new slab, so is it possible to get a new one open without destroying it?? >>



    Agreed. It looks more like a bogus label rather than slab.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • ergoismergoism Posts: 315 ✭✭✭
    It's not a fake. No fakes have shown up in new holders yet. It's very recently graded so a scam artist likely wouldn't have access to this cert number. If anything, it's a clerical error which isnt very common but happens from time to time.
  • LittletweedLittletweed Posts: 623 ✭✭✭
    Wow, that is a strange one. My guess is that if you sub really ugly cards, the least ugly one gets the best grade. But seriously, possible PSA error?

    23905990 - 1986 Topps Nolan Ryan #100 PSA 5
    23905991 - 1987 Topps Nolan Ryan #757 PSA 4
    23905992 - 1986 Donruss Fred McGriff #29 PSA 5
    23905993 - 1986 Fleer Kareem Abdul-Jabbar #1 PSA 10?????
    23905994 - 1989 Donruss Ken Griffey Jr #33 PSA 5
    Matt

  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    That is horrendously bad...........
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    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • 60sfan60sfan Posts: 311 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow, that is a strange one. My guess is that if you sub really ugly cards, the least ugly one gets the best grade. But seriously, possible PSA error?

    23905990 - 1986 Topps Nolan Ryan #100 PSA 5
    23905991 - 1987 Topps Nolan Ryan #757 PSA 4
    23905992 - 1986 Donruss Fred McGriff #29 PSA 5
    23905993 - 1986 Fleer Kareem Abdul-Jabbar #1 PSA 10?????
    23905994 - 1989 Donruss Ken Griffey Jr #33 PSA 5 >>



    Will PSA buy the card to get it out of circulation?
  • OAKESY25OAKESY25 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭
    23905990 - 1986 Topps Nolan Ryan #100 PSA 5
    23905991 - 1987 Topps Nolan Ryan #757 PSA 4
    23905992 - 1986 Donruss Fred McGriff #29 PSA 5
    23905993 - 1986 Fleer Kareem Abdul-Jabbar #1 PSA 10?????
    23905994 - 1989 Donruss Ken Griffey Jr #33 PSA 5 >>


    uh ohhh - holy crap
  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    Ugh
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    The seller is awfully defensive in his listing... good stuff right there.
  • miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it is not a fake, but is just another example of a mech error that occurred on the grade portion of the label. Happens frequently enough.

  • bbcemporiumbbcemporium Posts: 684 ✭✭✭
    Real card, real slab, probably just an error on PSA's end.
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  • miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Aside from being a mech error, this is another in a huge data set of people buying the holder and not the card, since he does have one bidder on it. Sure, this might be an extremely ugly example, but that happens a lot as we all know.

  • charrigancharrigan Posts: 2,293
  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,608 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The seller is awfully defensive in his listing... good stuff right there. >>



    That's a clown listing, bro.
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    not sure i understand the hubbub. yup, PSA f'd up. nope, the seller ain't shady. he told it exactly like it is in his description. no foul play here. can't wait to see the Jordan.
  • charrigancharrigan Posts: 2,293
    I've talked to the seller and he seems like a decent guy. He's reaching out to PSA to see if there has been an error. IMO, he should pull the listing until he knows for sure, but he has not done that yet.
  • RaulsmasterRaulsmaster Posts: 663 ✭✭
    Is it really necessary to contact someone to see if there is an error. I'd say it's pretty obvious. It happens
    It never leaves you...
  • ergoismergoism Posts: 315 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Is it really necessary to contact someone to see if there is an error. I'd say it's pretty obvious. It happens >>



    I'd imagine contacting PSA would be the right thing to do when it's a card of this magnitude and it's blatantly obvious. PSA would be able to correct the mistake and offer the customer some grading vouchers.
  • charrigancharrigan Posts: 2,293
    In fairness to the seller:

    -- He's new ( at least strongly seems that way to me )

    -- He's giving up a major pay-day

    You can't fault him for wanting to check and get an authoritative answer before pulling the plug.
  • JBrulesJBrules Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In fairness to the seller:

    -- He's new ( at least strongly seems that way to me )

    -- He's giving up a major pay-day

    You can't fault him for wanting to check and get an authoritative answer before pulling the plug. >>



    +1.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    If this seller can sell his card for $1,648.00 with the chipping along the right side, then by all means let this seller get rid of his OC card.

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  • MrNearMintMrNearMint Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Will PSA buy the card to get it out of circulation? >>








    Has psa done this before?
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    must be an excited slab-jacker out there somewhere right now thinking, "Dang, this one don't even need a facelift!"
  • JBrulesJBrules Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is this real or another fake slab? I am no expert on card grading but to my untrained eye this card does not appear to meet the PSA 10 centering standards. Any thoughts?Kareem PSA 10 >>



    Looks like he ended the listing. Looks like he dropped it from 1,200 to 500 and then ended the listing.
  • TommyJTommyJ Posts: 14 ✭
    Looks like cert number is now a PSA 5 EX.
    TommyJ
  • charrigancharrigan Posts: 2,293
    The seller informed me that Joe O replied to his email and requested the card be sent in to be reviewed.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭


    << <i>Looks like cert number is now a PSA 5 EX. >>



    this disclaimer can also be viewed when verifying cert numbers.



    << <i>Data entry errors occasionally may occur causing the information on the card holder to differ from the PSA database. If the information listed above appears to be incorrect, please contact customer service at 800-325-1121 or email us at info@psacard.com. >>

  • miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The seller informed me that Joe O replied to his email and requested the card be sent in to be reviewed. >>



    Glad to hear it. When this thread began, I emailed the seller, friendly tone & no accusations that he was trying to dupe people, suggesting that he contact PSA about it and included some details about how to go about it and such. Never heard back from him so I appreciate he went ahead and contacted them.

  • JBrulesJBrules Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Job well done!
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The seller informed me that Joe O replied to his email and requested the card be sent in to be reviewed. >>



    Well done PSA!
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
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