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PSA 8.5 vs Psa 9

CsmontieCsmontie Posts: 184 ✭✭
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Ok what is the consensus out there is a PSA 8 card is worth $40 and a PSA 9 is worth $205 what's an 8.5 come in at ?
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  • bouncebounce Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭
    who's the player?

    first instinct is maybe $100 or so, but it probably depends

    i don't think 8.5s split the difference, they should be closer to 8s than 9s generally in my opinion
  • CsmontieCsmontie Posts: 184 ✭✭
    Bounce - there are a couple of them I'm looking at this example is Hank Aaron another was Nolan Ryan PSA 8 is $55 and a PSA 9 is $390. Just using the SMR as a reference
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  • slum22slum22 Posts: 2,594 ✭✭✭✭
    I think it depends a lot on the card (by this I mean the eye appeal of the card) as well as the pop report in question. How many 9's vs how many 8's and 8.5's. I agree with Bounce that an 8.5 is usually going to fall closer to the 8 than the 9.
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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭✭
    In instances where there is a substantial gap between price for an 8.5 vs. a 9, I'm more than happy to have the 8.5 plus the extra cash to spend on other cards.
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  • DrFongDrFong Posts: 326


    << <i>......Just using the SMR as a reference >>



    No bueno.
    All your money won't another minute buy.
  • wilkiebaby11wilkiebaby11 Posts: 412 ✭
    So I've found this to be relatively good equation for cards that don't have the more drastic drop-off from 8 to 9 (there obviously is one)

    PSA 8.5 = (PSA 9 - PSA 8)*.3 + (PSA 8)

    In laments terms, 30% of the value of the difference between the two cards.

    So.... PSA 8.5 = ($205 - $40)*.3 + ($40) = ($165)*.3 + $40 = $49.5 + $40 = ~$90

    That's of course a rough estimate, but it's one that I've found to encompass a lot of cards. I'm pretty good at math so I can do the numbers quickly in my head and have a pretty good feel for if the card is priced accordingly or if I need to do some more research.
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  • bouncebounce Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Bounce - there are a couple of them I'm looking at this example is Hank Aaron another was Nolan Ryan PSA 8 is $55 and a PSA 9 is $390. Just using the SMR as a reference >>



    so with both of these, especially on Ryan but probably also on Aaron, i agree will depend on the looks of the card

    there are a lot of people who would buy a really nice looking 8.5 on ryan and sub for the bump, so in that particular instance i could see the 8.5 splitting the difference more

    you want to post pics/links? i realize if you're trying to buy them then this might alert others to some nice cards, but it's obviously easier for people to comment if they can see them
  • psychumppsychump Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭
    I spoke with a PSA rep during the last Tri-Star show out here in NorCal and she said "An 8.5 IS a 9. What do you get when you round off 8.5? You get 9. It was graded a nine first then dropped half a grade by a senior grader". She also told me that three people grade one vintage card!
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  • 60sfan60sfan Posts: 311 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So I've found this to be relatively good equation for cards that don't have the more drastic drop-off from 8 to 9 (there obviously is one)

    PSA 8.5 = (PSA 9 - PSA 8)*.3 + (PSA 8)

    In laments terms, 30% of the value of the difference between the two cards.

    So.... PSA 8.5 = ($205 - $40)*.3 + ($40) = ($165)*.3 + $40 = $49.5 + $40 = ~$90

    That's of course a rough estimate, but it's one that I've found to encompass a lot of cards. I'm pretty good at math so I can do the numbers quickly in my head and have a pretty good feel for if the card is priced accordingly or if I need to do some more research. >>


    +1
    My experience has been that PSA 8.5's sell for about 25% - 30% more than PSA 8's.
  • mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I spoke with a PSA rep during the last Tri-Star show out here in NorCal and she said "An 8.5 IS a 9. What do you get when you round off 8.5? You get 9. It was graded a nine first then dropped half a grade by a senior grader". She also told me that three people grade one vintage card! >>




    My head is spinning trying to grasp that quote
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  • brad31brad31 Posts: 2,863 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I buy primarily PSA 8.5 and SGC 92 and in my opinion there is almost no difference between the 8.5s and 9s I have of the same year. On the SGC side centering can be an issue on 92s but the well centered ones stack up well with 9s.

    I believe there is more difference between my 8's and 8.5s than between my 9s and 8.5s. I consider the 8.5s and 7.5s (the few I have I am extremely happy with) the bargains of the hobby right now.
  • MapleleafMapleleaf Posts: 506 ✭
    I've always been happy with cards that I've bought that have a .5 grade.
    They don't seem to give them out that often and on the odd time I've received a half point grade on my own submissions, I've always felt the card was a candidate for a crack and resubmit.
    I just did that with a Lemieux rookie - waiting to see what I get.
  • CsmontieCsmontie Posts: 184 ✭✭
    thanks everyone for the comments and education .... The PSA 8.5 was a 1974 Ryan on Ebay ended up at $112 but it had a print defect lower left corner about 1/2 up, I cant post the link here at work but I am sure someone can find the card it ended last night
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  • DrFongDrFong Posts: 326


    << <i>

    << <i>So I've found this to be relatively good equation for cards that don't have the more drastic drop-off from 8 to 9 (there obviously is one)

    PSA 8.5 = (PSA 9 - PSA 8)*.3 + (PSA 8)

    In laments terms, 30% of the value of the difference between the two cards.

    So.... PSA 8.5 = ($205 - $40)*.3 + ($40) = ($165)*.3 + $40 = $49.5 + $40 = ~$90

    That's of course a rough estimate, but it's one that I've found to encompass a lot of cards. I'm pretty good at math so I can do the numbers quickly in my head and have a pretty good feel for if the card is priced accordingly or if I need to do some more research. >>


    +1
    My experience has been that PSA 8.5's sell for about 25% - 30% more than PSA 8's. >>



    You hit the +1, but in wilkiebaby11's math the PSA 8.5 is 125% more than the PSA 8 (not 25% to 30% more like your experiences show), so I'm not sure if you're agreement with him is accurate.
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  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,557 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anthjos had a very nice run of 1974 8.5's yesterday - most of the HOFers got a decent premium over 8's.
    I set 18 snipes, all with a 40-50% premium over PSA8 prices -- only won five of them.
    Mike
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  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,891 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Anthjos had a very nice run of 1974 8.5's yesterday - most of the HOFers got a decent premium over 8's.
    I set 18 snipes, all with a 40-50% premium over PSA8 prices -- only won five of them. >>



    I hate Anthjos' pictures though....makes it very hard to gage tilt.
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