Junk wax with potential?

VintagemanEd · February 21, 2015 10:20AM

Is there any junk wax from 87-91 that has
A little investment potential?

ReggieCleveland · February 21, 2015 10:29AM

Yes

miwlvrn · February 21, 2015 10:48AM

<< Is there any junk wax from 87-91 that has
A little investment potential? >>

Additionally, not all wax from 1987-91 was junk, either, though I think the OP was referring just to those issues that qualify for the junk category.

cpamike · February 21, 2015 10:53AM

<< Yes >>

VintagemanEd · February 21, 2015 11:00AM

So what of the junk wax do you think
Has the most potential?

ReggieCleveland · February 21, 2015 11:14AM

1988 Donruss. Buy, buy, buy.

ReggieCleveland · February 21, 2015 11:16AM

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<< Yes >>

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As I read your post, The Coasters "Down in Mexico" came on in my itunes. Which made an appearance in a film that the poem in your quote was also used in. It's, like, hobby synergy.

cpamike · February 21, 2015 11:19AM

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<< Yes >>

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As I read your post, The Coasters "Down in Mexico" came on in my itunes. Which made an appearance in a film that the poem in your quote was also used in. It's, like, hobby synergy. >>

I knew there was a reason I posted on here.

rcmb3220 · February 21, 2015 1:25PM

I think only if prices of stuff before 1987 continue to go up, pushing more people into junk. But the upside is limited.

RookieWax · February 21, 2015 9:57PM

<< Is there any junk wax from 87-91 that has
A little investment potential? >>

Yes....and one will be officially "un-junked" in a big way in the next month or two.

CDsNuts · February 21, 2015 11:39PM

Is there any junk wax from 87-91 that has
A little investment potential?

That depends. Do you plan on ripping it all, grading the best cards and then selling the remainder to someone while lying about the fact that they have been picked over for grading?

VintagemanEd · February 22, 2015 12:32AM

Hey CDsNuts.... You can send those sets
Back to me any time! I described them accurately and
Did not pick through them. I did not realize you
Were under the allusion that every card would
Grade a psa 10

CDsNuts · February 22, 2015 12:43AM

Hey CDsNuts.... You can send those sets
Back to me any time! I described them accurately and
Did not pick through them. I did not realize you
Were under the allusion that every card would
Grade a psa 10

I was not looking for every card to grade a 10, I was looking for ANY card that might even potentially be a 10. Funny that you would publicly offer me a return 3 months later but privately you would not when I explained my displeasure. The 3 sets are long gone, I sold them at a loss. Fact is, I specifically asked if the sets were picked over for grading and you said they were not. You sent me 3 nice NM/MT overall sets (1979, 1980 and 1981 Topps) that had zero potential PSA 10s; anybody here that busts sets for grading (there are a few that have posted in this thread) will tell you this completely defies odds when dealing with high grade sets. I was prepared to buy every set you had if they were as you described, but sadly they were picked clean. Not one single common was a potential 10, and not one single star was a potential 9. It just doesn't happen unless you're buying from New England Sports Cards who picks all of their sets clean. Is that who you got these sets from? They were obviously picked over for grading, I just wish you were honest from the getgo.

Lee

charrigan · February 22, 2015 12:43AM

CDsNuts · February 22, 2015 12:54AM

I'd also add that $250 or whatever it was means nothing to me; I was prepared to spend 10x that for the rest of your sets. But don't get caught in a lie and then deny it. Just apologize and move on. Or if it's ignorance and you didn't really know the sets were picked clean by the previous owner, I can accept that. But don't put it on me because you don't know what you're selling or that you aren't savvy to the grading game.

I flat out asked you if they were picked over for grading. You said they weren't. They clearly were. I've been busting 60s and 70s sets for grading for the past decade and I know what I'm looking at. I can tell within the first 50 cards whether a set has been picked through.

Lee

VintagemanEd · February 22, 2015 4:05AM

What outlet do you sell the sets that are not
Worthy for grading thru Lee?

CDsNuts · February 22, 2015 4:25AM

What outlet do you sell the sets that are not
Worthy for grading thru Lee?

Why do you ask, looking for other ideas to liquidate your cherrypicked stuff? I sure as hell don't sell them on a graded card message board telling people they haven't been picked over.

sportscardtheory · February 22, 2015 8:19AM

I would say pretty much anything O-Pee-Chee, Leaf, Fleer Canadian and anything Bowman from '87 to '91 is a decent investment. Maybe Sportflics and Topps Big as well. Most of these were seemingly produced at much lower rates than most wax from that era, comparatively.

MULLINS5 · February 22, 2015 1:28PM

VintagemanEd,

I have some 1989 Topps Hockey that have not been searched through. If you are interested, PM me. Great set for easy PSA 10s.

As far as junk wax, I hear Birdman added quite a premium to 1989 Topps Batman. Series one and two.

MinorLeaguer · February 22, 2015 11:37PM

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<< Is there any junk wax from 87-91 that has
A little investment potential? >>

Yes....and one will be officially "un-junked" in a big way in the next month or two. >>

Excuse my ignorance. Were you were being facetious?

Davis · February 22, 2015 11:45PM

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<< Is there any junk wax from 87-91 that has
A little investment potential? >>

Yes....and one will be officially "un-junked" in a big way in the next month or two. >>

Excuse my ignorance. Were you were being facetious? >>

Not sure if he was being serious or not. However, there are 3 guys from the 1989 rookie class (Biggio, Randy Johnson, and Smoltz) getting inducted in 2015. Maybe that's what he's referring to.

dennis07 · February 23, 2015 12:23AM

I don't need anybody getting my hopes up over '87 - '91 product. Stop it. Just stop it now.

miwlvrn · February 23, 2015 12:59AM

<< I don't need anybody getting my hopes up over '87 - '91 product. Stop it. Just stop it now.

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If you want to sell any of these boxes at junk wax price rates, let me know.

Stingray · February 23, 2015 1:15AM

Leave it to the Canadians, always a year behind!!

curch · February 23, 2015 1:23AM

Picking up a huge junk wax lot today. This stuff is awesome for the right price!

RookieWax · February 23, 2015 5:23AM

<< 

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<< Is there any junk wax from 87-91 that has
A little investment potential? >>

Yes....and one will be officially "un-junked" in a big way in the next month or two. >>

Excuse my ignorance. Were you were being facetious? >>

Like I said, give it a month or two.

curch · February 23, 2015 5:42AM

What's in a month or two?

Davis · February 23, 2015 5:44AM

<< Like I said, give it a month or two. >>

haha...why so cryptic? I think we'd all enjoy your opinion? Are you referring to the 1989 baseball rookies that will be inducted this summer (Randy Johnson, Smoltz, and Biggio)?

On that note, I was surprised to see that Mattingly's eligibility expired this year without getting in. And Trammell has only 1 year left...I'd really like to see him get in.

BaltimoreYankee · February 23, 2015 5:50AM

One of the problems with junk wax is the cost to ship. Somebody may want to pay $10 for a box but add $12 shipping and it's no deal.

LarkinCollector · February 23, 2015 5:56AM

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<< Like I said, give it a month or two. >>

haha...why so cryptic? I think we'd all enjoy your opinion? Are you referring to the 1989 baseball rookies that will be inducted this summer (Randy Johnson, Smoltz, and Biggio)?

On that note, I was surprised to see that Mattingly's eligibility expired this year without getting in. And Trammell has only 1 year left...I'd really like to see him get in. >>

My guess is
a) it has nothing to do with the current HOF class
b) there will be an article published in a major publication that will drive purchases of a specific issue (1990 Topps if you force me to guess)
c) RookieWax was a contributor to the article
I wouldn't bother to be cryptic, I would avoid talking about it at all if trying to hoard before everyone finds out

ReggieCleveland · February 23, 2015 6:12AM

Yeah, we've been down this road with RookieWax before. He claims to have an infallible way of detecting which 1990 Topps unopened has the blackless cards in it. My guess is that an article will be published that he contributed to that he believes will send people scurrying for 1990 Topps. My guess is that there won't be as much scurrying as he anticipates.

curch · February 23, 2015 6:16AM

Let it be 1990 topps traded

RookieWax · February 23, 2015 6:23AM

<< Yeah, we've been down this road with RookieWax before. He claims to have an infallible way of detecting which 1990 Topps unopened has the blackless cards in it. My guess is that an article will be published that he contributed to that he believes will send people scurrying for 1990 Topps. My guess is that there won't be as much scurrying as he anticipates. >>

1990 Topps baseball was "un-junked" long ago. Nice attitude by the way.

LarkinCollector · February 23, 2015 6:33AM

<< 1990 Topps baseball was "un-junked" long ago. >>

What do you consider un-junked? I still see recent box sales in wax/cello/rack at $20 delivered, with vending and a few outliers going for less.

RookieWax · February 23, 2015 6:45AM

$20 delivered for a 1990 Topps wax box is about 4 times what those sold for several years ago, when you could get a 20 box case for well under $100 delivered. There are certainly instances in which things have been "un-junked" in a more significant way.

ReggieCleveland · February 23, 2015 6:50AM

One man's junk is another man's unjunk.

CDsNuts · February 23, 2015 6:51AM

Nobody was selling 1990 Topps or any orher wax boxes for $5 delivered because it costs more to ship them. You can still get them for $15 dlvd which might be up from $10-$12 dlvd 10 years ago. Congrats on the huge 90 Topps boom, I'm sure you made a killing. Just like you will on 91 Score or whatever the hell it is you think is going to skyrocket because of an article 19 people will read.

Lee

Dusto · February 23, 2015 6:53AM

$20 dlvd for a box is not unjunked, it's smack dab in junkiness. I love busting junk and would put it at over $50 per box to start losing junk status.

charrigan · February 23, 2015 6:54AM

Man, I used my Popcorn Girl way too early in this thread.

RookieWax · February 23, 2015 6:57AM

RookieWax · February 23, 2015 6:59AM

<< Nobody was selling 1990 Topps or any orher wax boxes for $5 delivered because it costs more to ship them. You can still get them for $15 dlvd which might be up from $10-$12 dlvd 10 years ago. Congrats on the huge 90 Topps boom, I'm sure you made a killing. Just like you will on 91 Score or whatever the hell it is you think is going to skyrocket because of an article 19 people will read.

Lee >>

What in the world are you spouting off about?????? I never "hoarded" 1990 wax boxes....I responded to a post speculating that I was.

CDsNuts · February 23, 2015 7:34AM

1990 Topps wax boxes are on BBCE right now for $10 ea. How can you possibly claim it still isn't junk?

And your 'I have a secret but I'm not going to share' act might have played well in 4th grade, but we're all (mostly) adults here. If you know something and want to share, go for it- that's what forums are for. But nobody is going to play into your 'I know something you don't know' routine. It's lame and sad and nobody cares.

The only thing worse than a know-it-all is a smug know-it-all. And the only thing worse than that is a smug know-it-all that doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. I guess that makes 2 things worse than a know-it-all.

Lee

RookieWax · February 23, 2015 7:45AM

Did I or did I not say there are certainly different degrees to which something can be "unjunked"????? Wax boxes of 1990 Topps baseball certainly sell much better and for much higher amounts than they did years ago, when nobody wanted them at they would barely sell for what it cost to ship them.

And try living by your own advise...."If you know something and want to share, go for it- that's what forums are for...." instead of using this forum for personal attacks.

...by the way, who is the one with the maturity and attitude of a fifth-grade bully on a playground?

mlbfan2 · February 23, 2015 7:55AM

It's official...still junk.

CDsNuts · February 23, 2015 7:59AM

Also, nazis are worse than know-it-all's too, so at least you're not as bad as nazis.

RookieWax · February 23, 2015 8:01AM

If a 20 box wax case that used to sit and sit for $100 or less with shipping, now sells for $300 to $350 with shipping...I consider that "un-junked" to a degree. If you don't, that is fine. LIKE I SAID, there are certainly things that have been and will be "un-junked" to a much higher degree.

VintagemanEd · February 23, 2015 9:45AM

Come on RookieWax......tell me more!!

curch · February 23, 2015 10:01AM

I think any wax is fun! Mainstream anyway.

DanBessette · February 23, 2015 11:28AM

Just to be clear, when we talk about a "junk wax", we're all talking about getting a Brazilian, right??

Nathaniel1960 · February 23, 2015 10:06PM

Really nice condition Topps and OPC wax boxes (clean bottoms) with tight packs from 1986 to 1991 will go up a bit, IMO - I don't see them going any lower. Cellos and racks from those years with stars on them too.

The problem is the volume you would need to go through to recognize any real profit is not worth the time.

curch · February 24, 2015 1:54AM

<< Really nice condition Topps and OPC wax boxes (clean bottoms) with tight packs from 1986 to 1991 will go up a bit, IMO - I don't see them going any lower. Cellos and racks from those years with stars on them too.

The problem is the volume you would need to go through to recognize any real profit is not worth the time. >>

They are nice looking boxes from those years.

Junk wax with potential?

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