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EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
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It obviously toned naturally in an old type set picture frame, but once it is removed from the holder, it loses its provenance and might be judged suspect. What do you think?

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  • icsoccericsoccer Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭
    Nice! image
    I think it will grade imo.
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  • shishshish Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image Should grade, I suggest reverse up image
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't see why not.....nice coin.
  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,178 ✭✭✭✭
    That toning looks pretty erratic (a lot of sudden color shifts); PCGS tends to dislike this.

    I say no grade.
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  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd say "probably will" but there's only one way to find out for sure and she's definitely worth a shot.
  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image Should grade, I suggest reverse up image >>



    image

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,388 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Only the grading room knows for sure.
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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very likely it will grade Ok.

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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I saw the first photos and said "meh, what's the big deal?". Then I saw the reverse. Very nice. I wouldn't worry too much about taking it out of the type set holder. The other coins don't look like anything special.

    I think it will grade, but could take two or three tries. More than one or two attempts is hard to justify as it's pretty baggy. I'd definitely slab it reverse up.
  • stealerstealer Posts: 3,998 ✭✭✭✭
    There is no way to prove that the Morgan got its toning from that set, so I see absolutely no harm in removing it. It's no different from a double mint set - just because crazy toned coins currently reside in it lends no proof to whether or not the coin is AT.
  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    I think it should grade.
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  • AblinkyAblinky Posts: 626 ✭✭✭
    Looks fine to me, definitely a reverse holder candidate.

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  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    could be seen as AT even though it's not

    a maybe grade

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  • coinguy1989coinguy1989 Posts: 1,056 ✭✭
    It looks blatantly original to me.
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,023 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It looks blatantly original to me. >>




    +1
    Well said.
  • coinguy1989coinguy1989 Posts: 1,056 ✭✭


    << <i>That toning looks pretty erratic (a lot of sudden color shifts); PCGS tends to dislike this.

    I say no grade. >>



    PCGS didn't have a problem with either of these and you could argue that the are "sudden color shifts" on these and both also look original to me (and PCGS seems to agree).

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  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭
    this toning isn't a result of that type set holder
    most likely came from a bag before that set held it

    it should have no problem grading and probably will see a +

    awesome find there and huge congrats eagle eyed one...i love it
    update us please when it grades
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Should grade MS63/64. And even if it doesn't, try it again with PCGS or NGC and you should get it soon enough. You already have plenty of people here who would pay a nice premium for it just as it sits.
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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,986 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image Should grade, I suggest reverse up image >>



    image Yes reverse side up for sure!!! A very pretty coin and I don't see any problem with it grading.
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  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree, it didn't get that toning in this frame, but it does appear that the edge toned rather dark, so it got some extra toning in the picture frame.
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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They graded this one.
    [URL=http://s57.photobucket.com/user/coinsareus10/media/MorgKilid1887Slabed63.jpg.html]image[/URL]
  • goldengolden Posts: 9,706 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>this toning isn't a result of that type set holder
    most likely came from a bag before that set held it

    it should have no problem grading and probably will see a +

    awesome find there and huge congrats eagle eyed one...i love it
    update us please when it grades >>

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, it sure will grade....

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  • jcpingjcping Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭
    Agree, it should be able to make it image
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  • FanOfGoldCoinsFanOfGoldCoins Posts: 8
    Ship the coin to PCGS in its current holder to prove the origin of the toning. PCGS usually frowns upon such improper-holder submissions, but will accept this rare exception considering the circumstances. PCGS has so accommodated me in the past.
  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,136 ✭✭✭✭
    Yep Looks like a 64/64+ from the pics
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  • winkywinky Posts: 1,671 ✭
    LOVE that reverse, beautiful. image
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,986 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>They graded this one.
    [URL=http://s57.photobucket.com/user/coinsareus10/media/MorgKilid1887Slabed63.jpg.html]image[/URL] >>



    WOW, pretty coin!!
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