What did this IKE clash with?? (Large pics)

Bodin

segoja

Doesn't look like a die clash to me....looks more like die polish and rework

Not sure it's real material, but it does look neat upon magnification

WoodenJefferson

Got some flow lines lines going on there from slightly abraded dies, but a clash? I thought by 1972 the Mints had solved the problem (more or less) with dies clashing when there was no blank in the chamber?

Bodin

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CaptHenway

That thing on the neck sure does look like a clash mark, but I'll be danged if I can figure out from what.

Let's think outside the box. That neck area is very deep in the die, and it is extremely unlikely that another die could reach down into the recess of the die that far.

What if a die chip from a random part of either an obverse or a reverse Ike die got between the dies as they cycled without a blank. A segment of that piece of die steel could have gotten into that deep recess and left a clash mark.

The parallel lines could be the result of an attempt to repair the die after the clashing. If the die chip came out of the reverse die and both dies were pulled from the press, then the obverse die could be reused after some touchup work.

So, if (hypothetically) the clash mark of the neck was caused by any part of the reverse design at any random alignment, what works? The R of AMERICA?

TD

bronze6827

The clash marks below the neck we've seen before. However, the marks on the neck relief itself is a new one, not sure what would cause those. The relief of that cavity is far to deep to capture anything from the reverse die. Perhaps debri left in there when the working hub hit the working die?

tincup

Neat coin!

SPalladino

1) I've seen a "BUS" clash in the field at the base of the neck, but never an extension into the device. The issue on the device at the base of the neck could be a clash, but does not appear aligned right or to reflect the correct clash (URIB)


2) The work in the field near the 2 appear to be gouges from a die working tool, much like these:

"Tiger Claw"

"Bear Claw"

"Shooting Star"


3) The feature at the base of the neck appears to run from the device, over the edge and into the field. Does the edge/base of of the neck have the feature?

4) Not a strikethrough. Could it be a hub through?

Bodin

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