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Which coin do you like better? UPDATE

WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
Both are 1917 S rev. coins graded by PCGS with same numerical grades. Please tell me which one you prefer and why? Thanks.

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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,995 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Second one. Don't like the spotty, dark toning on the first. >>

    Yep. Beat me to it.
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  • KyleKyle Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have to agree with the others.

    The second coin.
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  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd take the 2nd coin.

    I actually prefer the color/luster/skin of the first one, but... I'm not a fan of that type of toning, and think I would find it more of a distraction to me than what I would consider a more subdued surface on the 2nd coin without the toning.
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  • Second one. I think it is struck a little better although I don't know that much or collect walkers. I do like the toning on the first one but its got a mark on the head and a softer struck hand.
  • Second one, due to better eye appeal


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  • deltadimemandeltadimeman Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭
    first one, because it's original
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,390 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Second one. Don't like the spotty, dark toning on the first. >>



    I agree as well.
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  • chrisflchrisfl Posts: 27 ✭✭
    the second one here also....think the spotty toning is more distracting than complimentary.
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭
    second one
    more eye appeal
    better strike
    frostier luster
    her face doesn't look like it was run over by a mack truck

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  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll take #1. It has a certain skin and glow that I kinda like.
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  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,145 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #2

    Whats the grades? 63? 64?
  • Rayman311Rayman311 Posts: 423 ✭✭✭


    << <i>second one
    more eye appeal
    better strike
    frostier luster
    her face doesn't look like it was run over by a mack truck

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    +1
  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Coin one with a little magic would be the better of the 2.
  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,380 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> Whats the grades? 63? 64? >>



    Both are 64s and both are CAC stickered.

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  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #2
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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,511 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2nd
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  • FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,139 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think I like #2 better.
    It would be easier to tell if the lighting/ white balance was the same in both pics.
    The second pic has a purple tint that doesn't seem to do the coin justice.
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭
    of course price point plays it's roll too

    hopefully someone is not peddling coin #1 off as premium toning example with a price to commensurate
    just saying...as #2 would shine all the more
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  • AblinkyAblinky Posts: 626 ✭✭✭
    The first coin, the second coin is far too white for me.

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  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    2

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1st coin for me. More original and better skirt lines to boot.image
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'll take #1. It has a certain skin and glow that I kinda like. >>



    Me too.

    The luster on the 2nd one is slightly impaired/overdipped. Probably would have been a grade higher if not for that. The better strike and fewer marks on the 2nd one comes at a price.

    I actually like the crustiness of the 1st one....even the orig coppery toning seen so often on original 1916/1917 silver coins of this era.
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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,986 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've gotta say the bottom one is more appealing to me because it has a cleaner appearance. It also seems as though the strike around Miss Liberty's head is a bit better than the top one as the top one looks to be a bit flat do to wear or weakness in strike. Although the top one has an original look, I still gravitate to the bottom one for the reasons stated.
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  • YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,580 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Second one, with no doubt.
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  • Both coins look super nice for pre 20's

    But the slash on the face of the first one ruins it for me even though it is in a secondary focal point
    when I look at walkers, and would most likely be an issue if/when it comes time to sell it.

    The second one seems to be a bit subdued more than the first but trumps the slash on the first one by a long shot
    and most likely much less of an issue if/when it comes time to sell.

    And givin the price range I'd like the upside in my favor.
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  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Without a doubt #2 (but I will take your leftovers)
  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,484 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I honestly can't decide - they are both very nice examples.

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  • goldengolden Posts: 9,709 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Door #2 please.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The first was dipped in eZest. The second was dipped in acetone and then eZest. A double dip.

    Both look unimpaired. Though the photographer had the lights wrong on the reverses.

    I'd pass on each.
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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,188 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I prefer #1, it doesn't look dipped like #2. The head tics don't bother me very much except when the photos are enlarged to salad plate size. They are both attractive coins in their own way and I think the choice of which to buy is largely a matter of individual taste. My taste is towards #1.
  • david3142david3142 Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 2nd one and it's not that close for me. I don't like the dark toning spots on the first (or the scratch on the face).
    The frosty, clean, appeal of the 2nd is much better to these eyes.
  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's the story----I own coin #2. I passed on the 'perfect' 1917 S Rev. coin in 2012 (I will never, ever live that one down). It took me 2 more years just to find this one (coin #2). 1917 S rev. coins are impossible to find nice in all areas. I paid about 30% above retail for this coin, which is a lot but I love the strike and surface preservation. It had sold a couple years prior to my purchasing it for almost the same amount, so at least I know that the hammer prices are consistent.

    The price of #1 has yet to be determined, as it has not crossed the action block yet. Coin #1 is actually a MS 64 '+' coin, while coin #2 is a MS 64. I thought about buying coin #1 but have decided not to for a variety of important reasons:

    1. Despite the crust; I feel that coin #1 is NOT original and has been dipped. I see luster that has been compromised on both the front and back of the piece. I also feel that the toning on coin #1 is not an attractive or colorful toning but instead looks spotty.

    2. I don't like the scuffs and abrasions in the right facing field of coin #1 along with marks in other areas of the piece.

    3. It would not serve me well to sell my coin #2 in order to just get a '+' upgrade as opposed to having a base 64. Besides, a dealer would not pay me what I have into coin #2 and I would never take that kind of a loss. The only way that I could retrieve my money is to either sell it on Heritage or to hold it longer-----and I am going to do the latter.

    I believe that coin #2 has been dipped, as well, BUT I believe that BOTH coins still have a lot of good luster and frost remaining, when compared to other MS 64 & 65 examples of this issue (MS 65s cost 10-12K)! Although I like # 2 better, both coins are super rare and eye appealing (just in different ways) in this condition. IMO just because a coin has been dipped---that doesn't necessarily make it bad just as long as it retains most of it's luster, as these coins have. I am VERY happy with coin #2. I will be watching from the sidelines, however, with great anticipation to see what coin #1 sells for.

    This has been a super thread for me and I'm really glad that I posted it, as I really had no idea what the opinions and responses would be. I have gained some very valuable insight and it mostly reaffirms my belief in coin #2.

    Thank you SO MUCH to everyone who has responded, thus far.

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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,546 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #2 by a mile,,,,,

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  • TootawlTootawl Posts: 5,877 ✭✭✭
    Second one for me.
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  • coinhackcoinhack Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭✭
    Definitely #2
  • mariner67mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭
    #2
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,588 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Second one. Don't like the spotty, dark toning on the first. >>

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    No contest for me on this one. #2 by a landslide.

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  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,877 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Second one for me too.
    Though I'm often a fan of toning, the blotchy toning on the first coin does not do anything for me.
    The hits on the head and face of coin 1 are troublesome for me as well.
    In any case, I'm used to looking at and seeing bright Walkers, so no problems there.

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,380 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have a nice original NGC61 CAC I can post tomorrow if its okay and you are interested in seeing it! >>



    Sure--I'd like to see your coin. image

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  • mommam17mommam17 Posts: 971 ✭✭✭
    being a toning nut, I'll take the first one, which I think would look much nicer in hand?
  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Number 2 for me.
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  • RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>second one
    more eye appeal
    better strike
    frostier luster
    her face doesn't look like it was run over by a mack truck

    thank you for entering me in your generous giveaway too image >>

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  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    #2
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
    first one seems to have more of its original skin and would be my choice
  • etexmikeetexmike Posts: 6,817 ✭✭✭
    I like "crusty" coins but even the first Walker is too crusty for my liking. Gotta go with coin #2.


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  • Personally coin 1. For ease of resale coin 2. I like original toning.

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