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Hello all, I was hoping to get help identifying what is going on with this . At first I thought it was a spot , but upon closer examination it looks more like a damaged planchet or some sort of strike through. I am trying to decide if I should send it in for grading as error( if it is worth it) or return it to the mint ....I know it is a modern but I do like the design image...Any help would be appreciated ,Thanks

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  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭
    Looks like a lamination error particularly to the right of the UN. Be interested to hear other opinions.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,273 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Could be a fragment of brass that was either rolled into the planchet strip before the blank was punched out, or something that was struck into the coin in the press. My guess is rolled into the strip.

    Hard to say if worth bothering to slab.
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Could be a fragment of brass that was either rolled into the planchet strip before the blank was punched out, or something that was struck into the coin in the press. My guess is rolled into the strip. >>



    That would explain the color. Seems to stop at the border of the 7 and the I of the motto.

    Very unusual.
  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sweet !!! :-)
    Timbuk3
  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image to the board! Cool coin image

    Erik
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It could be what's called 'rolled in slag' -

    As the Captain says, something was
    rolled into the planchet before it was
    struck;

    Could also be a flake of metal that
    was on the surface of the planchet
    when it was struck.

    Hard to know for sure from the scans.

    As to whether it's worth slabbing -

    I'd say probably, but there's no assurance
    that someone will pay a premium over the
    normal coin's value for this type of error.
    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Didn't know dcarr had a new piece out.
    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
    gold is pricey enough. I have found very little premium in struck through. Don't believe there are a lot of "error gold" collectors out there.

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  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭
    What was the issue price on these?
  • chrisflchrisfl Posts: 27 ✭✭


    << <i>What was the issue price on these? >>

    $407

    The "rolled in slag" would explain what I see under the scope ,and even though the picture looks like it may be a lamination issue what you see is actually flush or a void... best I can tell.

    Does PCGS have different criteria for grading errors? the coin is stunning...... other than the obvious. My fear is if I return It, I would get one that does not have the eye appeal that this one has...... To be honest the error is not all that distracting.

    I prefer to slab to help protect them from....well.... me, image .... especially coins that I think may be handled more often.

    Thanks for the welcome Erik...and thanks for the help everyone.

  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Does PCGS have different criteria for grading errors? the coin is stunning...... other than the obvious. My fear is if I return It, I would get one that does not have the eye appeal that this one has...... To be honest the error is not all that distracting. >>



    Have never seen an error coin that I did not like. I would slab it if it were mine. Only risk is that the market price, error or not may drop to near melt as often happens with the gold commems.

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Really hard to tell if something was rolled in or if it's just some type of adhesive that was spilled on it?

    As looking at the edges of the discolored areas I think I see bubbles toward the edges.

    Edited to add: The more I look at this the more it looks like glue was spilled on it.
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • chrisflchrisfl Posts: 27 ✭✭
    image



    image

    I sent this picture though photobucket so it has better detail.

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