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Standing Liberty Quarter, clashed dies, 1918-S

So, I'm taking some photos of my coins. This one hasn't seen daylight in quite some time. As I'm cropping and straightening, I see some marks, and then I eventually recognize the "E" of E Pluribus Unum, and a major die clash that even show the "A" and "M" of America on either side of Liberty.

I cannot find many examples of a 1918-S that show this level of clashing, and the more I look at it, the more it looks like there are some other die issues going on. The obverse rim between noon and 2 o'clock doesn't look right.

I found this article: http://koinpro.tripod.com/Articles/1918S25cClashedE.htm

I believe this is going to get sent in for grading. There are some slide, stacking, or friction marks on Liberty's left leg though that I hope don't keep it from grading. The toning is pretty dark too, and I've got a few lights on this thing.

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 18-S comes heavily clashed as at times you can even make out the wing of the eagle.

    The letter "E" clash from the wording "E Pluribus Unum" on the reverse as the Standing Liberty Quarters where struck with the Hammer Die striking the Reverse Design while the Anvil Die struck the Obverse... therefore it's more common for SLQ's to have signs of Die clashing on the Obverse.

    Darrel Neidigh composed a list of die clash varieties for SLQ's listed in Jay Clines 4th Edition book but that is not the most up to date Neidigh list.

    In Robert Knauss's SLQ' Varieties and Errors book Neidigh most complete work is listed.
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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,090 ✭✭✭
    Maybe it's just me, but I can't see the clashing.

    I don't think the coin is not worth sending in to get graded, it's been cleaned.

    -Paul
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I once saw a really cool 1920-P that was so heavily clashed it had 2 of the 3 reverse lower stars flanking Miss Liberty's head on both sides of the obverse.
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  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice, I like it !!! image
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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin. Slabify it.

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  • luckybucksluckybucks Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭
    Sweeeet !!!

  • jcpingjcping Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭
    Nice coin. Head meets a few TPG's FH requirements. Not sure color is nature. Be care of getting an AT holder back.
    an SLQ and Ike dollars lover
  • bcdeluxebcdeluxe Posts: 209 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Nice coin. Head meets a few TPG's FH requirements. Not sure color is nature. Be care of getting an AT holder back. >>



    I've questioned the color myself. I don't think it's cleaned but I think there's a better chance it may not pass the MA color test.
  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,289 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Maybe it's just me, but I can't see the clashing....

    -Paul >>



    To the viewer left of the right knee area is a backwards "E"...that is the pick up point for the clash.

    I like it!
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  • bcdeluxebcdeluxe Posts: 209 ✭✭✭
    image

    Also, I'd think this would go FH. The three leaves are distinct, there's separation of the hairline and brow, and there's an earhole. Good enough for me to call FH.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just saw this 18-S new to ebay today which is heavily clashed.

    You can see letters on both sides of the knee & shin along with the full wing.

    There's also another clash in the field by the shield & draped flag.

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  • bcdeluxebcdeluxe Posts: 209 ✭✭✭
    Same date, same mm, interesting to see the differences. I don't know of anyone that has created any type of listing for die pairings for this series (aside from perhaps some specific diagnostics on the overdate), but this does not appear to be the same die set. Different wear, and more so, the rotation of the die is slightly different, as evidenced by the results of the clashing.

    An interesting coin. Thanks for pointing this one out.

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