1928-s peace dollar, are there any with an almost invisible S ?

ebaybuyer

I dont see an S anywhere.

AUandAG

Don't think there is a weak S die state. Perhaps a filled with grease example?

bob

ebaybuyer

looks like I gotta fill out a paper for the plastic factory,

BryceM

The 1928 Philly issue has a VERY weak S.

Perhaps this souds like a stupid question, but are you sure it's a 28-S? How can you tell? Are you looking at other die characteristics? Is there a hint of a MM visible? A grease-filled die comes to mind. A "doctored" 1928-S with the MM removed to pass as a 1928 comes to mind.......

LindeDad

<< <i>The 1928 Philly issue has a VERY weak S.

Perhaps this souds like a stupid question, but are you sure it's a 28-S? How can you tell? Are you looking at other die characteristics? Is there a hint of a MM visible? A grease-filled die comes to mind. A "doctored" 1928-S with the MM removed to pass as a 1928 comes to mind....... >>



especially if you have a RAW coin.

ebaybuyer

I don't believe its a removed mintmark, I believe it could be a 28P that was mistakenly labeled a 28-s

ebaybuyer

pics added, there is no S that I can find, are there other diagnostics to authenticate a 28 P ?

lostincoins

Can we gat a good shot of the area around the mint mark (close up) so we can better see if there is any sign of manipulation?

ebaybuyer

ebaybuyer

my photographic skills are lacking, I don't have the equipment for close ups, gonna have to send it in. if it is a P the owner will be quite pleased

lasvegasteddy

appears to be an "S" to me
just a grease filled example of the mintmark
onething is for sure...i don't trust such issues on a 1928 peace dollar being the "P" is the key date
i don't think this coin has enough surface integrity to be sure it hasn't been played with

coin4sale

kinda hard to tell , but may be legit. Perhaps the person labeling it was writing 1928 $ , but forgot the vertical drop thru the S!

Wabbit2313

Here is where it is supposed to be, from one of mine. The circled S from Teddy is in the correct spot, I think anyway!

lasvegasteddy

goodluck by all means
i always wish the best and hopefully...yet again...i am wrong

their are diagnostics for the "P" mint...found on the obverse...maybe they're visible on yours?

BryceM

Funny. When i first read this post I couldn't see any of the photos.

There are four known die pairs for the 1928-P. Each has identifying markers or die polish lines that can be used the authenticate genuine 28-P coins, but it's possible they'll be hard to see on a circulated specimen. The best photos can be seen on VAMWorld's website on the 1928-P page.

ebaybuyer

after viewing the diagnostics on vamworld, I believe it is die #3 with the short die gouge in the hair, ive looked at it with a 20x lense and I see no disturbance of the die "striations" in the area of the mintmark, or the luster, yeah my scanner doesn't show it but it has lots of luster remaining,

lasvegasteddy

<< <i>after viewing the diagnostics on vamworld, I believe it is die #3 with the short die gouge in the hair, ive looked at it with a 20x lense and I see no disturbance of the die "striations" in the area of the mintmark, or the luster, yeah my scanner doesn't show it but it has lots of luster remaining, >>



wow
congrats...that's a you suck if you land it in a holder...not until then you
i'd note that on coin description...that it is die #3

(i love being wrong in such a case as this )

please update us when it grades

Wabbit2313

That S looks like it stands out like a sore thumb after looking in the correct spot?

ebaybuyer

I don't see it on the coin, no interruption in the flow lines in that area, don't know what it is in the scan but its not on the coin. I was asked to evaluate a collection for a friend, this was in the bunch, along with a complete set of mercury dimes, she was gonna sell me the dimes for $1 each, LOL I told her I couldn't do that, and she said ok how about 75 cents each ? then I told her that would be about $60 or.... I could help her sell the 16D, 21P and 21D and buy the others at spot, when she was completely confused, I told her what the 21 should be worth, then what the 16D should be worth, and she said I like that idea better.

Wabbit2313

It is refreshing to hear an honest story like that. Are they in nice shape? (The rare dimes?)

ebaybuyer

and the verdict is in !

DennisH

Congrats!

ebaybuyer

the 16D dime came back genuine bent Gd details, which is odd considering i scanned it and it wasn't bent when i scanned it. lol

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ebaybuyer

now its time to contact her and find out if she wants to keep or sell. how accurate is the PCGS price guide for the 1928 dollar in 55?

nwcoast

Regardless of your scary icon, you're a good guy in helping your friend and not pulling a rip.
A refreshing story indeed!
A friend in need is a friend indeed!
Too bad we don't have a humanitarian you suck category. i'd nominate you for that!

As far as PCGS opinion on this.... It goes a long way...
People may debate whether it's over graded or not, especially if you go to sell to 'some' dealers.
However, the grade eleminates the barb they might otherwise throw of that grease filled or artfully removed or worn mm.
Look at completed auctions for a better take on values. Not sure about price guide.

In this case, there's a lot of "value in that plastic", as you well recognize.

A big congratulations!!!!

Wabbit2313

Cool! How are you going to help her sell it? You blocked every buyer eBay has!