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Hopefully the 6th editions will have far fewer errors than the 5th editions, making them much more valuable publications. True & Active specialists (real world Registry set builders of some of the better material would be a start) should be used in at least the editing phase of each section. It certainly DID NOT happen for the Mercury Dimes last time and it was very disappointing. I have heard from other specialists that other sections were really bad as well. If you are going to do something, you might as well do it right! I offered my assistance on the 5th edition Mercury Dime section and I was told that it was all covered. I have the email correspondence to prove it. That was obviously NOT true. The entire value system that seems to be largely based on flimsy gut feelings of raw examples needs to be trashed and revised...there are TONS of auction records that exist for goodness sakes not to mention the population reports of PCGS, NGC and ANACS as a starting point. The entire rarity, interest and liquidity system that seems to be again based on flimsy gut feelings needs to be trashed and based off of facts/reality. There needs to be a value/demand paragraph that should be written about each series. Here is a SIGNIFICANT Mercury Dime Variety that should be added to the book...I might as well offer up one suggestion here.
This is MORE SIGNIFICANT than some other varieties already included in the book and very very easy to spot.
"If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64 Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners.
I agree with the comments above. The Mercury dime section seems to be way off in valuing the dime. I just shake my head sometime when I see the pricing on some of the stuff. I wish they would have taken the help keyman64 offered.
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There are several enthusiasts that are helping with the pricing this time around, this at the request of the authors and publisher. Hopefully this information will be used in the forthcoming edition and in all subsequent volumes.
<< <i>There are several enthusiasts that are helping with the pricing this time around, this at the request of the authors and publisher. Hopefully this information will be used in the forthcoming edition and in all subsequent volumes. >>
As I pointed out though, it is not just the pricing! And if they go with more "enthusiasts" again...I will bet that the books will continue to be screwed up. The interest, liquidity, pricing and rarity information is a mess. Also there is a big difference between registry quality examples and average circulated examples for many of the varieties. There is so much that is left unaddressed in the books.
"If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64 Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners.
<< <i>I agree with the comments above. The Mercury dime section seems to be way off in valuing the dime. I just shake my head sometime when I see the pricing on some of the stuff. I wish they would have taken the help keyman64 offered. >>
Thanks fcloud.
"If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64 Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners.
I am not an expert on Mercury dimes, but have enough general numistmatic knowledge to realize Mercury dimes will not be included in the sixth edition, volume I, covering half cents through nickels.
Variety values are very difficult, especially when actual rarity is not known. After the books publication, a few more hundred eyes will be scouring online auctions for worthwhile varieties.
It seems as though this new version of the guide was supposed to be out for the past two or three years now, so it will most likely be another two or three....
<< <i>I am not an expert on Mercury dimes, but have enough general numistmatic knowledge to realize Mercury dimes will not be included in the sixth edition, volume I, covering half cents through nickels. >>
This is correct but typically Vol II follows Vol I and I have been made aware of plenty of problems within Vol I. So if you think my statements are off base, you are mistaken. My comments focus on Mercury dimes but apply to both volumes.
<< <i> Variety values are very difficult, especially when actual rarity is not known. After the books publication, a few more hundred eyes will be scouring online auctions for worthwhile varieties. >>
With regards to the majority of the varieties that have been known for many years if not decades, I would consider this to be incorrect and online auction records are very easy to follow! For top variety registry participants, many things become abundantly clear in a short period of time, certainly in less than five years. With regards to newly discovered modern varieties you do have a point; it will take a little time to figure out.
"If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64 Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners.
<< <i>The collectors of the 2009 formative years cents have been waiting for this book to come out for sure. >>
Beyond all of the inaccuracies, this is another reason that the PCGS Registry should not rely on a print publication that is only updated several years apart.
"If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64 Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners.
The CPG will only be recognizing some of the major errors from the 2009 formative years as they are a significant variety and high grades of them ar bringing good money.
The WDDR 006 in particular will be featured in there as it is the rarest and can be seen with the naked eye.
<< <i>There are several enthusiasts that are helping with the pricing this time around, this at the request of the authors and publisher. Hopefully this information will be used in the forthcoming edition and in all subsequent volumes. >>
As I pointed out though, it is not just the pricing! And if they go with more "enthusiasts" again...I will bet that the books will continue to be screwed up. The interest, liquidity, pricing and rarity information is a mess. Also there is a big difference between registry quality examples and average circulated examples for many of the varieties. There is so much that is left unaddressed in the books. >>
Maybe I should have said enthusiasts or specialists who are familiar with every aspect-pricing, rarity, etc-of a particular series and/or variety. I closely track and monitor my field of expertise-I know rarity and accurate pricing and all the differences between the individual dies. Registry stuff is a whole other ball game. I've seen some relatively minor doubled dies go for, as they say, "moon money" due to the registry thing.
<< <i>The collectors of the 2009 formative years cents have been waiting for this book to come out for sure. >>
Beyond all of the inaccuracies, this is another reason that the PCGS Registry should not rely on a print publication that is only updated several years apart. >>
You can say that again, Greg! Nice to see ya post my friend.
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by the end of 2015.
<< <i>The sixth edition, volume I, covering half cents through nickels, will be out
by the end of 2015. >>
Thanks for the info.
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<< <i>The sixth edition, volume I, covering half cents through nickels, will be out
by the end of 2015. >>
Excellent news.
...glad to hear it!
This is MORE SIGNIFICANT than some other varieties already included in the book and very very easy to spot.
Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners.
keyman64 offered.
President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay
<< <i>There are several enthusiasts that are helping with the pricing this time around, this at the request of the authors and publisher. Hopefully this information will be used in the forthcoming edition and in all subsequent volumes. >>
As I pointed out though, it is not just the pricing! And if they go with more "enthusiasts" again...I will bet that the books will continue to be screwed up. The interest, liquidity, pricing and rarity information is a mess. Also there is a big difference between registry quality examples and average circulated examples for many of the varieties. There is so much that is left unaddressed in the books.
Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners.
<< <i>I agree with the comments above. The Mercury dime section seems to be way off in valuing the dime. I just shake my head sometime when I see the pricing on some of the stuff. I wish they would have taken the help
keyman64 offered. >>
Thanks fcloud.
Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners.
I am not an expert on Mercury dimes, but have enough general numistmatic knowledge to realize Mercury dimes will not be included in
the sixth edition, volume I, covering half cents through nickels.
Variety values are very difficult, especially when actual rarity is not known. After the books publication, a few more hundred eyes will be scouring online auctions for worthwhile varieties.
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<< <i>I am not an expert on Mercury dimes, but have enough general numistmatic knowledge to realize Mercury dimes will not be included in
the sixth edition, volume I, covering half cents through nickels. >>
This is correct but typically Vol II follows Vol I and I have been made aware of plenty of problems within Vol I. So if you think my statements are off base, you are mistaken. My comments focus on Mercury dimes but apply to both volumes.
<< <i>
Variety values are very difficult, especially when actual rarity is not known. After the books publication, a few more hundred eyes will be scouring online auctions for worthwhile varieties. >>
With regards to the majority of the varieties that have been known for many years if not decades, I would consider this to be incorrect and online auction records are very easy to follow! For top variety registry participants, many things become abundantly clear in a short period of time, certainly in less than five years. With regards to newly discovered modern varieties you do have a point; it will take a little time to figure out.
Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners.
<< <i>The collectors of the 2009 formative years cents have been waiting for this book to come out for sure. >>
Beyond all of the inaccuracies, this is another reason that the PCGS Registry should not rely on a print publication that is only updated several years apart.
Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners.
The WDDR 006 in particular will be featured in there as it is the rarest and can be seen with the naked eye.
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<< <i>There are several enthusiasts that are helping with the pricing this time around, this at the request of the authors and publisher. Hopefully this information will be used in the forthcoming edition and in all subsequent volumes. >>
As I pointed out though, it is not just the pricing! And if they go with more "enthusiasts" again...I will bet that the books will continue to be screwed up. The interest, liquidity, pricing and rarity information is a mess. Also there is a big difference between registry quality examples and average circulated examples for many of the varieties. There is so much that is left unaddressed in the books. >>
Maybe I should have said enthusiasts or specialists who are familiar with every aspect-pricing, rarity, etc-of a particular series and/or variety. I closely track and monitor my field of expertise-I know rarity and accurate pricing and all the differences between the individual dies. Registry stuff is a whole other ball game. I've seen some relatively minor doubled dies go for, as they say, "moon money" due to the registry thing.
They are not just pulling them out of a hat.
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<< <i>The collectors of the 2009 formative years cents have been waiting for this book to come out for sure. >>
Beyond all of the inaccuracies, this is another reason that the PCGS Registry should not rely on a print publication that is only updated several years apart. >>
You can say that again, Greg! Nice to see ya post my friend.
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They always said it would be out soon but not this year.
Now they are saying this year and I believe them as they have not lied to me ever and i know they have been working on it.
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<< <i>The sixth edition, volume I, covering half cents through nickels, will be out
by the end of 2015. >>
Thanks for the info.
BTW - Did your Whitman Bat Signal go off? Only 18 minutes to reply to this one 8-) >>
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