Very good fake PCGS slab on eBay

commoncents05

Link.

One of the best I've seen. The label looks correct, and even scans as an 1893-S Morgan, but the coin is clearly counterfeit.

-Paul

JGnumismatics

<< <i>Link.

One of the best I've seen. The label looks correct, and even scans as an 1893-S Morgan, but the coin is clearly counterfeit.

-Paul >>




Good looks on this, the slab does look very close. The obvious giveaway for me thought besides the look of the coin, is that although the cert checks, the cert also has three auction records. And all three auction records don't even closely resembled the fake slabbed coin. Sucks that more and more of this are coming out, closer and closer to the real thing.

mbogoman

I disagree that it is a very good fake. Yes, it's better than most, but the slab and label are both off.

1) The label font of the grade (i.e. PCGS XF45) is not right.

2) The space between the 1 and the 8 in the date is incorrect (too far apart)

3) The interlocking corners of the slab are squared off rather than rounded to match the outer angle

Goldbully

<< <i>I disagree that it is a very good fake. Yes, it's better than most, but the slab and label are both off.

1) The label font of the grade (i.e. PCGS XF45) is not right.

2) The space between the 1 and the 8 in the date is incorrect (too far apart)

3) The interlocking corners of the slab are squared off rather than rounded to match the outer angle >>






I have to admit, the slab looks real to me.
The corners do have an inside round at closer look.
The font looks good to me.
If this is fake, the counterfeiter is amazing.


For comparison

messydesk

The grade is also plausible.

MsMorrisine

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Go, Go, Go!

coindeuce

Using the zoom function on the eBay images of the full slab, one can see that there are no stacking tabs in the corners of the back side of the capsule. RED FLAG!

AMRC

Look at the background on the label. The light lines are very hard to copy (on purpose). As you can see it only copied across part of the insert.

mbogoman

<< <i>The corners do have an inside round at closer look.
The font looks good to me. >>



Look closely at the raised interlocking corners on both the fake and real slabs. On the real one, the angle of the outer part of the corner is the same as the rounded part of the raised portion. On the fake, the raised portion is clearly more acute and squared off (yes, it is "rounded" a bit, but much closer to a 90 degree angle than on the real slab).

Look again at the font and the spacing between the letters. It's just not right.

If I could do an overlay of the photos, both of the above would be more obvious I'm sure. Maybe someone more adept at Photoshop will do it for us...

DennisH

I reported that last week. Good old eBay... always alert and responsive.

joebb21

The coin is obvious- the slab would make me look twice-

DaveWcoins

Decent copy of the slab.

Coin is a joke (luckily!).

Reported.