The Asterik Era: Time Heals All?

evilpenny

50 year forecast. Wondering what the consensus is on the cards like the '85 McGwire Tiffany PSA 10, the '84 Clemens Update PSA 10 , the '87 Bonds Update/Tiffany?

Personally I think it's a tough one for several reasons. Firmly believe cards will always be collectible, however this day and age kids are into phones and digital items. Even Topps is producing digital cards, Bunt. I don't get it, but that's a whole other conversation.

Next obstacle, the substance issue. While still not resolved and maybe impossible to eradicate will this just be another page in history and generally accepted 50/75 years from now? I call into play the Blacksox cloud. While I can not speak personally, as I wasn't even thought of yet, I'm pretty sure they weren't too popular in certain circles at the time. Over time and nowadays, they are legends and the scandal itself has assuredly help propel them to that status.

Next would be the HOF issues. It maybe a long time before they make it, but I find it hard to believe that somewhere of the course of infinity that the all time hit leader and all time home run leaders cant be in the hall. Obviously, not this year and granted, not next but eventually, right?

I know there is no crystal ball and tomorrow is never a garauntee for any of us, my question to all is:

Inflation aside: What do you see the value of these cards 50 years down the road?

DrFong

50 years into the future? 20 quatloos, tops.

evilpenny

<< <i>50 years into the future? 20 quatloos, tops. >>



Pretty sure, that's what I typed!

Raulsmaster

I think time has already started to heal as they are selling strong these days

grote15

Put it this way~the value of their cards has a better chance of going up than they do of getting into the HOF..

Topgun6580

Well, I think Tiffany cards will always have value. McGwire 85 Tiffany PSA 10 is one of the rarest 80s card to pop up on ebay, that has a population at least. Chipper Jones 91 Tiffany PSA 10 is another that rarely surfaces (usually 4SC) has one listed once a year. Ive seen it sell for $1,000. It also helps the cards are numbered and sealed sets have to be drying up.

ashabby

Hobbies cycle up and down. So if trying to sell in the future. Sell in a up market...

lahmejoon

Personally, I'm more afraid that there are going to be far less collectors of sports cards, since kids aren't collecting like we did when we were younger. Therefore, cards may not hold value in 50 years from now.

evilpenny

<< <i>Personally, I'm more afraid that there are going to be far less collectors of sports cards, since kids aren't collecting like we did when we were younger. Therefore, cards may not hold value in 50 years from now. >>



That's exactly what I was referencing, lahmejoon. I'm in the same boat!

Dpeck100

There have been some strong sales of the 85 McGwire in the past six months. I thought about buying a PSA 10 on a whim a few years ago at $250 and there are sales as high as $645 in recent completed listings on EBAY.

I get that it is fascinating to think about values down the road but there is no telling what 50 years from now brings in my opinion. Good or bad.

vols1

There is potential for 85 McGwire and 84 Clemens. The problem with Bonds is he has 20 different rookie cards, so the collector money is spread out.

evilpenny

I wont be around, but we are doing a "time capsule" (tradition) for the kids and while my budget certainly wouldn't allow a '85 tiffany 10 of McGwire or even a Clemens Update, 9's are certainly with in reach.

Anyways, it doesn't have to necessarily be "50 years", although in the grand scheme of things 50 years is really just a blip on the screen. It's all relative.

It's more along the lines of: Will the black eye that hangs on these guys be gone and be a thing of legend? And of course, a winning lottery ticket would be an added bonus. I couldn't imagine opening up a package from 50 years ago and finding a shoeless joe rc in mint condition. A little different, I know, but still!


FYI: We opened my grandfathers a few years back. It was a blast. The most notable was a cool little pocket knife and there was a 1938 quarter. The first year that George was on it and first year of our modern quarter. It looks like it was just minted. Been told to get it graded and such, but in all honesty we don't care about the value or grade and wouldn't let it leave our custody.



"Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute."

Einstein

ReggieCleveland

I believe they'll be forgiven. Hell, people love Ty Cobb and he was a racist a##hole. Many of the higher-profile baseball writers have already called for forgiveness and voted for players like Bonds and Clemens on their ballots. Couple that with the gigantic mess the voting process is and its impending revamp and I think many get in toward the end of their eligibility.

Predicting value 50 years down the line is like throwing a Dixie cup into a tornado and trying to predict where it shoots out. But I've recently begun collecting the cards from my youth (1985-1992) and have had more fun doing it than any other hobby project I can recall. The fact that they're all dirt cheap helps. For many of them, they weren't breaking any rules as MLB didn't have a policy on PEDs. I'm off the opinion that 98% of players did it so I'm not going to hold it against the best. But I can understand why some OB fans get bent out of shape about it.

FINESTKIND

I'm glad I won't be around in 50 years.

kyuss

<< <i>I wont be around, but we are doing a "time capsule" (tradition) for the kids and while my budget certainly wouldn't allow a '85 tiffany 10 of McGwire or even a Clemens Update, 9's are certainly with in reach.

Anyways, it doesn't have to necessarily be "50 years", although in the grand scheme of things 50 years is really just a blip on the screen. It's all relative.

It's more along the lines of: Will the black eye that hangs on these guys be gone and be a thing of legend? And of course, a winning lottery ticket would be an added bonus. I couldn't imagine opening up a package from 50 years ago and finding a shoeless joe rc in mint condition. A little different, I know, but still!


FYI: We opened my grandfathers a few years back. It was a blast. The most notable was a cool little pocket knife and there was a 1938 quarter. The first year that George was on it and first year of our modern quarter. It looks like it was just minted. Been told to get it graded and such, but in all honesty we don't care about the value or grade and wouldn't let it leave our custody.



"Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute."

Einstein >>



1932 was 1st year of George on the Quarter

evilpenny

Correct. Simple mistake.

blee1

I actually think there may be less collecting of these things in the future.

Reasons why I think I collected football cards.
First off I loved football.
There were a few books available at the time.
Mondays paper was about the only thing around to read for stats and info on the games.
CBS usually aired two games on Sunday and NFL today started 30 minutes before the game.
The cards were the only thing I really had that had information on them and pictures of the players, etc.

Now the information is endless.........

hyperchipper09

I won't be around in 50 either. So I'll miss the eventual outcomes of the MLB PED-Gate and NFL's Deflate-Gate in the court of public opinion. Though a half century may not be enough for either