Penn State and Paterno get wins added back

Dialj · January 16, 2015 6:11AM

I always thought it was odd to take away the victories.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/penn-st-gets-wins-restored-paterno-again-winningest-coach/ar-AA8foix

MGLICKER · January 16, 2015 6:14AM

Paterno.....what a dolt. He was my last sports hero.

mlbfan2 · January 16, 2015 6:50AM

Damn, 111 wins in one day. I'm told that's a record.

perkdog · January 16, 2015 7:50AM

<< I always thought it was odd to take away the victories. >>

I thought it was odd that all that abuse was going on and none of those coward scumbags did anything about it

bronco2078 · January 16, 2015 10:13AM

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<< I always thought it was odd to take away the victories. >>

I thought it was odd that all that abuse was going on and none of those coward scumbags did anything about it >>

The almighty dollar is all that matters .

MGLICKER · January 16, 2015 10:40AM

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<< I always thought it was odd to take away the victories. >>

I thought it was odd that all that abuse was going on and none of those coward scumbags did anything about it >>

Very well said, Perkdog.

Estil · January 16, 2015 7:49PM

The other punishments were fair game (and really JoePa had to be fired; there was no way he could've continued with all of this hanging over him and the team) but taking the W's away was way out of the NCAA's bounds. W's should only be taken away if it was found that they weren't real (like if they used ineligible players or something). And JoePa himself didn't do any of the abuse...the problem was whether or not he went far enough or not in terms of bringing this situation to the attention of those that it needed to.

bronco2078 · January 16, 2015 8:51PM

Wasn't the assistant coach relentlessly diddling children as those wins occurred? Take away all the wins and shut the whole place down forever. If it was up to me I would rule no more football for Penn State period .

I went to 2 colleges and if they were both disbanded I wouldn't even notice 20 years later

I would be like ummmmmm who cares its a stupid college . Been there , done that, paid them for it . No warm feelings, no alma mater nonsense , for me they both ceased to exist the second I left .

telephoto1 · January 17, 2015 12:30AM

Why am I not surprised. The NCAA is about money, nothing else... and Penn State's football team has been a cash cow for decades. Why not just build a Jerry Sandusky statue and name a youth center after him while they're at it? They obviously don't care what he did or that their godlike "Joe Pa" turned a blind eye along with everyone else. This should have been a death sentence for their football program, plain and simple.

garnettstyle · January 17, 2015 2:54AM

<< Why am I not surprised. The NCAA is about money, nothing else... and Penn State's football team has been a cash cow for decades. Why not just build a Jerry Sandusky statue and name a youth center after him while they're at it? They obviously don't care what he did or that their godlike "Joe Pa" turned a blind eye along with everyone else. This should have been a death sentence for their football program, plain and simple. >>

Disagree, they had no right to take away wins. The players won those games, not the coaches.

telephoto1 · January 17, 2015 3:46AM

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<< Why am I not surprised. The NCAA is about money, nothing else... and Penn State's football team has been a cash cow for decades. Why not just build a Jerry Sandusky statue and name a youth center after him while they're at it? They obviously don't care what he did or that their godlike "Joe Pa" turned a blind eye along with everyone else. This should have been a death sentence for their football program, plain and simple. >>

Disagree, they had no right to take away wins. The players won those games, not the coaches. >>

Somehow I doubt they did this due to their great love for the players.

Estil · January 17, 2015 2:34PM

<< Why am I not surprised. The NCAA is about money, nothing else... and Penn State's football team has been a cash cow for decades. Why not just build a Jerry Sandusky statue and name a youth center after him while they're at it? They obviously don't care what he did or that their godlike "Joe Pa" turned a blind eye along with everyone else. This should have been a death sentence for their football program, plain and simple. >>

Textbook definition of a strawman argument. For those not familiar with the term it's where someone argues against a pretend (usually more extreme or unpopular position) viewpoint that the other side doesn't really believe. As I said before, the other punishments Penn State got were fair game (and by now have been served anyway), and fair or not, JoePa had to be fired when they did, there was simply no other way. All I personally am saying is that only taking the W's away was going too far, nothing else. C'mon, nobody is really calling for a Sandusky statue or youth center.

telephoto1 · January 19, 2015 12:03AM

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<< Why am I not surprised. The NCAA is about money, nothing else... and Penn State's football team has been a cash cow for decades. Why not just build a Jerry Sandusky statue and name a youth center after him while they're at it? They obviously don't care what he did or that their godlike "Joe Pa" turned a blind eye along with everyone else. This should have been a death sentence for their football program, plain and simple. >>

Textbook definition of a strawman argument. For those not familiar with the term it's where someone argues against a pretend (usually more extreme or unpopular position) viewpoint that the other side doesn't really believe. As I said before, the other punishments Penn State got were fair game (and by now have been served anyway), and fair or not, JoePa had to be fired when they did, there was simply no other way. All I personally am saying is that only taking the W's away was going too far, nothing else. C'mon, nobody is really calling for a Sandusky statue or youth center.

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Strawman? No. It's called using hyperbole. The second sentence of my statement sums up my point. Having the wins restored is just another step in sweeping this under the rug as if nothing happened and trying to heal the cash cow.

JHS5120 · January 19, 2015 1:09AM

Taking wins away was petty.

They should put Sandusky away for the rest of his life (which they did), put everyone involved on trial (which they are), reach a ridiculously large settlement with the victims (which they did) and fine the crap out of the institution to make sure they realize this is something that should never be swept under the rug for financial reasons (which they did).

Fining students and removing wins was not needed.

I get the urge to punish evil men for the crimes they commit, but sometimes punishing people just for the sake of feeling better about a horrible situation is unnecessary.

Skin2 · January 19, 2015 1:46AM

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Disagree, they had no right to take away wins. The players won those games, not the coaches. >>

If that is true, then Paterno never deserved the credit he got if "the players" won those games.

As for taking away the wins, they should have kept that penalty on there to send a message.

Also, whenever we hear former players like Franco Harris spout off in delusional support of Paterno and the regime, I think taking away the wins is a nice touch.

Taking away NCAA football participation for an entire generation would be a good penalty.

Penn State and Paterno get wins added back

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