National Championship game: Oregon vs Ohio State
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Who wins? Discuss.
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I dont think Ohio State can trade points with them
<< <i>I think Oregon wins
I dont think Ohio State can trade points with them >>
I agree with that logic. Good to see Pac10* vs Big Ten battling for the title.
*yeah I know it is Pac twelve now.
Anyone know why I chose that score?
<< <i>I predict that Oregon will beat Ohio State 46-33.
Anyone know why I chose that score? >>
That is the score of the 1939 NCAA basketball championship. Go Ducks!
Oregon 0
Field goal in OT wins it.
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Mariotta knows the Oregon offense like the back of his hand so preparation time for him is not as crucial. However he is without his #2 wide receiver Carrington who has recently become ineligible for this game. Mariotta is already without his #3 WR Devon Allen so he is going to battle with just Byron Marshall and a bunch of back ups. This means Mariotta will need to use significant practice time to get the timing and route combination work in with his back-up receivers. I expect Ohio State to double team Marshall and when they don't to send that extra defender at Mariotta for added pressure. Oregon is also missing their #1 cornerback and this places more pressure on the secondary to keep plays in front of them and make tackles. Cardale Jones has a very strong arm and will test the Oregon secondary to break on the ball quickly. This also means they can be lured by the double move and Ohio State has plenty of speed.
Royce Freeman and Thomas Tyner make up a pretty good backfield, but Oregon will need some creative play calling to see if they can get the ball to these two in space. Oregon likes to get defenses thinking defend the pass and when they are on their heels with everyone spread out is when they trap block and run the ball through the vacated area. It will be interesting to see how disciplined Ohio State stays with their gap assignments vs. trying to get all out pressure on Mariotta. I am expecting the interior of the Ohio State defensive line to work in tandem and keep plays funneled to their stronger tacklers. We'll see if Oregon counters with some interior cut blocks to give the backs multiple holes to choose from and keep from being pigeon holed to the linebackers. Ohio State has a history at being very good at this when they had great tackling linebackers like Laurinaitis and AJ Hawk, just funnel the back to our tackling machine, play over.
I think Ohio State has one of the more talented backs in the country in Ezekiel Elliott. He has power, he has speed, and every time you give him the ball 20 times he guarantees you at least 100 yards. And yet sometimes they only give him like 12 to 15 carries, I think he is being underutilized.
The question really for this game is can Cardale Jones complete enough passes to move the chains allowing Ezekiel Elliott to keep wearing the defense down. Ohio State needs to move the chains often enough to limit Mariotta's opportunities. Mariotta is the more polished quarterback, but without 2 of his primary weapons and facing increased pressure up front, he may find it difficult to incorporate the back-ups into the passing game. This means his running backs will need to be effective outlets if they are to convert a lot of third downs. Vegas has the Ducks by 5 1/2 points in this match-up, and if they had all their weapons at WR and Corner i would be inclined to agree with that line, however under the circumstances and with the added preparation time for Ohio State this is really anyone's game. I think if Cardale Jones avoids key mistakes on 3rd down Ohio State has a very good chance of pulling off the upset. However from what I have seen of Mariotta this year, it is hard to bet against him. If his line is solid up front giving him time to survey the field he is sure to put up points against anybody.
If its a scoring fest I think the Ducks go on to win, if the defenses step up and the punters see the field more often then expected I think Ohio State wins.
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Buckeyes, close game. Going with my heart.
Having said that, I really like our chances. The defense has been pretty stout when needed, and our offense... well, our offense is a wonderful thing to watch. If Mariota can shake off early-game jitters then he might be hard to stop. He was a little shaky early on in both the Pac-12 championship game against Arizona and in the Rose Bowl against FSU. He doesn't normally miss wide-open targets like he did against both those teams, but as the game progressed he was unstoppable.
"Yeah, but OSU's defense is bigger, faster, stronger..." Yeah, so was Michigan State's, Arizona's, Florida State's. I think Helfrich and Frost can come up with a plan to deal with them.
One of the big unknowns is Cardale Jones. He's playing in only his third game. Each of the games he's played in so far have been under "win or go home" pressure. So far he has performed very well. It will be interesting to see how he handles himself if Oregon is able to score like they're capable of. Playing from behind against Oregon has not worked out well for anyone else this year. Of course, that's contingent upon the Ducks being able to do what they've been doing. That's far from a given.
Oregon 41, TOSU 27
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Ducks 36-24.
Oregon 42
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But, I'm also a realist:
Oregon 44
OSU 27
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Too much build-up about the QB's in this game. Both teams have as much speed as anyone in the country. QB may be the only position Oregon has an advantage with their all-american DB out. Unlike the Pros, everything is not dependent on the QB in college. Meyer has proved that in the last two games.
Oregon 35
Ohio State 28
Still, never underestimate an Urban Meyer team.
I'll pick the ducks based on what I've seen of the respective cheerleader squads. Why was the Boz was out there Oklahoma and oregon and ohio all start with an oooooooooooo I guess.
Officials make a bad call on that fumble and get bailed out by the booth already , lemme guess the refs here are "all stars" too?
If I'm coaching the ducks and that TD gets overturned because some moron deliberately dropped the ball showboating my head would explode .
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Anyone here who still thinks their team got screwed by TOSU jumping them into the 4th spot?
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<< <i>Congrat's to Ohio State and The Big Ten.
MJ >>
Maybe I'm just a bitter and disappointed Oregon fan, but what congrats does the Big Ten deserve?
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IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Oregon had an exciting season as well-
The Big Ten deserves some acknowledgement because their teams played better than expected in the major Bowl games.
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<< <i>What a year, what a team. Sorry to all the haters who said the Big Ten was weak. >>
The Big Ten has been very weak for years now. No one can dispute that.
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Says who, the BCS?
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED