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Need help appraising some "steps" nickels for a friend

CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
Sorry to mention a different grading service on here, but a friend needs some help appraising some nickels graded by SEGS. I need to know if they have any value over regular BU nickels of these dates.

1941-S Small S. "6 steps/ bridge" MS-64
1945-S "5 steps/ bridges" MS-66
1948 "5+ steps/nicks" MS-63
1954-D 5 steps/ bridges" MS-64
1954-S 5 steps/bridge/nicks" MS-64
1957-D "5+ steps/nicks" MS-63
1973-D "5 steps/bridge/flaw" MS-63

And the joker in the deck:

1942-P (type 2) "partial collar/ 5+ steps" MS-63

I suppose that the value on this depends on how strong the "partial collar" is.

If someone could point me in the direction of a pricing guide for SEGS graded coins that would be greatly appreciated.

TD
Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.

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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,703 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The '54-S sounds like it might be a keeper.

    The others are less likely.
    Tempus fugit.
  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    I the denotation of 'bridge' means there's a bridge in one of the steps under say the third pillar, well then that kills a legit full steps designation for 'other' grading services. When I say 'other' I mean top tier grading services.

    Need clarification.
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  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,506 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would not buy the coins for FS monies.
  • winkywinky Posts: 1,671
    I don't do SEGS but I probably buy any of these coins, I would wait for PCGS.
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭
    do you have access to these coins to appraise them in hand?
    you can disregard whatever is written on those labels

    grading cost to get these in a respected holder must come into play too as grading fees add up

    chances are he just has low value unc nickels
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  • SoCalBigMarkSoCalBigMark Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In my opinion Segs is more consistent on steps than the other TPG's.
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In my opinion Segs is more consistent on steps than the other TPG's. >>



    Yeah but Bridges ='s not FS!
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do you want them in PCGS holders or SEGS? I will not pay for FS till I get them in PCGS holders. But it's your money, Good luck hope it all works out for you.


    Hoard the keys.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A friend of mine in New York has these. I said I didn't think that the slabs had any premium, but wanted to get a second opinion.
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yup your right. No premium till they are in the right holder with FS lable. image


    Hoard the keys.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,703 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>A friend of mine in New York has these. I said I didn't think that the slabs had any premium, but wanted to get a second opinion. >>



    Yes. The slabs have no premium but the '54-S sounds interesting and might have a premium in or out of another holder.

    My experience with '54-S precludes the likelyhood even SEGS can see many steps on them. Scarce steps can have a premium outdside the holder.
    Tempus fugit.
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,476 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It would take a special collector to see what qualities those coins might hold. I don't believe anyone would waste their money having run of the mill coins certified unless they can get high grades. And inferior coins do end up in all high grade holders. But I have returned coins back to Larry having not find anything special about them. Without pics or seeing the coins in hand, a value is impossible. Obviously, your friend bought them as a group or he would have some idea what he paid individually and would know something about them.

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

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  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I actually respect SEGS when it comes to Jefferson's, I find them conservative on grades
    and when it comes to steps they tell it like it is image I've seen our hosts and ATS holders
    with FS designations that would fit in each step grade you have listed for your friends
    pieces listed, However SEGS is not a major TPG and that stigma hurts those pieces that
    are plentiful without step flaws, and the 54s one of the exceptions as others state.
    Good pictures and an honest auction/offers can truly determine value among serious
    Jefferson collectors.

    Steve
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  • OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I also wanted to say you can ask Leo image

    Steve
    Promote the Hobby
  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,603 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This can not be done sight unseen. There are different levels of 'full steps', and different periods of SEGS grading.

    Someone needs to see them that is well aware of both PCGS and NGC grading standards for Jefferson nickels.


    The partial collar (as well as a broadstruck) would be expected to be well / full struck with as many steps as the die had. The coin must not have any damage (which occurs sometimes with fingers or machine damage) so that it could be in a PCGS or NGC slab, and then just valued for the 'quality' of the error.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thank you all for your help!
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,476 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm posting this one for Cladking. To my knowledge, it's the best example out there.
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    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

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