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Basketball 2015 HOF predictions?

pauldrolkeespauldrolkees Posts: 193 ✭✭✭
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who would make the 2015 class of HOF?

Mutombo to me is a lock. And I think Kevin Johnson will get in due to a weak class. Hope they will do the right thing by putting in Spencer Haywood, Sidney Moncrief and Jack Sikma as well.


eligible candidates here -
http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/hof.cgi

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  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,130 ✭✭✭
    If they don't pit McGinnis and Zelmo Beaty in via the ABA committee I'll be really bummed out. I also think Haywood and Moncrief need to go in.
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  • pauldrolkeespauldrolkees Posts: 193 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If they don't pit McGinnis and Zelmo Beaty in via the ABA committee I'll be really bummed out. I also think Haywood and Moncrief need to go in. >>



    I read from somewhere that this is the last year of the ABA committee to direct vote guys into HOF, it'd be sad if Zelmo and McGinnis and Haywood if one or more of them are left out.
  • DanBessetteDanBessette Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭
    I think mark jackson should be in, along with mutombo. I'm a fan of the providence college Friars, so I love Otis Thorpe, but I doubt that happens.
  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    Mark Jackson? Sorry, Dan. I gotta disagree with you there. I'm not going to full-on stat geek on you, but never once in all the years I watched him play did I think that he was an all time great. Great player, yes. HOFer? Nuh uh.

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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭✭
    The 2015 and 2016 elections will be an excellent time to right some wrongs because there is an absolute dearth of legitimate first-ballot candidates. In 2015 we have Mutombo and (I think) Lisa Leslie. In 2016 there are none that I'm aware of. My guess for the regular vote in 2015 will be Mutombo, Haywood, Tim Hardaway and Kevin Johnson. I also think Chris Webber has a good shot this next year or next. If I'm correct about Leslie being eligible this year, she should be a shoo in for the WNBA vote. Despite the fact that the ABA vote has been basically just a Pacers lovefest outside of Gilmore, I'll say that one more Pacer, McGinnis, gets in. He should have gone in a long time ago, and certainly ahead of Roger Brown. Beaty, Mack Calvin and Louie Dampier are other deserving ABA candidates. The Vets vote is wide open. I'll throw a dart and say Willie Naulls, but I really don't know. Lastly, I'll go with Divac for the international vote.
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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I read from somewhere that this is the last year of the ABA committee to direct vote guys into HOF, it'd be sad if Zelmo and McGinnis and Haywood if one or more of them are left out. >>



    Man, that would really stink (though Haywood is voted on by the regular committee). McGinnis, Beaty, Calvin and Dampier were my ABA guesses for the next 4 classes. Where did you hear this?
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  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,130 ✭✭✭
    when is the vote revealed?
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  • DanBessetteDanBessette Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Mark Jackson? Sorry, Dan. I gotta disagree with you there. I'm not going to full-on stat geek on you, but never once in all the years I watched him play did I think that he was an all time great. Great player, yes. HOFer? Nuh uh. >>



    Isn't he in the top 4 all time in assists? That's all I was basing it on.
  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>when is the vote revealed? >>



    Last year the direct elect inductees were announced on 2/14 and the regular class was revealed on 4/7.
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  • rtimmerrtimmer Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭✭
    What no love for Mo Cheeks? One of my favorites of all time.
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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭✭
    Mo Cheeks gets a lot of love from the voters, as he's been a finalist a few times recently. He probably has a good shot to go in this year or next. To me, though, he's far from a Hall of Famer.
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,130 ✭✭✭
    The other Mo - Maurice Lucas - needs to go in before Maurice Cheeks.
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  • pauldrolkeespauldrolkees Posts: 193 ✭✭✭


    << <i> Man, that would really stink (though Haywood is voted on by the regular committee). McGinnis, Beaty, Calvin and Dampier were my ABA guesses for the next 4 classes. Where did you hear this? >>



    They are seriously considering it, not finalized yet. But I read it off the NBA blog -

    http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2014/03/18/hall-of-fame-weighing-election-change/

    The Hall of Fame has discussed ending some or all of the five categories that gave candidates an easier path to enshrinement the last four elections, an outcome that, if it happens, would most noticeably impact former players and coaches from the ABA.

    “Let’s put it this way,” said Jerry Colangelo, the chairman of the Springfield, Mass., basketball museum. “This year, for the first time, we brought that up, to say, ‘You know, when we did this, we said it’s not forever.’ The concept was we felt people had slipped through the cracks. This was a catch-up kind of a thing, so we’re not locked in. We need now to review it each year, to say maybe we’ve taken care of what needed to be taken care of in this category or that category. But it’s just too early to say what we’re going to do.”

    The current format with the direct-elections will “probably” remain in place for at least one more year, Colangelo said, because the Hall would prefer to phase out categories rather than make an abrupt end. That leadership is having conversations now, though, indicates internal questions have already developed about whether enough deserving candidates exist for the specialized categories beyond 2015.
    While eliminating the categories would make the path to enshrinement harder in most cases, it would not end chances. It would simply return to the days of all candidates needing two rounds of voting for induction, a contrast to the current plan of a single, smaller election for nominees in the Contributor, ABA, Early African American Pioneers, Veterans and International fields. Receiving the necessary support — currently at least 18 votes from a 24-member panel — would additionally become more difficult because most candidates would be weighed in the same North American committee against the biggest names from the NBA and NCAA.
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