When it really matters, the Boyz are getting schooled

Dave99B · January 4, 2015 6:24AM

Imagine that....

Dave

PS Go Hawks!

Piggs · January 4, 2015 6:34AM

Loooong way to go.

DIMEMAN · January 4, 2015 7:09AM

I didn't see the first TD........but all other scoring by Detroit was due to gifts from the guys in stripes!

grote15 · January 4, 2015 7:13AM

<< Loooong way to go. >>

+1

But Dallas better stop making foolish mistakes and try blocking up front.

DIMEMAN · January 4, 2015 7:20AM

And Tony better start reading the blitz and hit his receivers. His accuracy is not up to par.

grote15 · January 4, 2015 7:48AM

<< And Tony better start reading the blitz and hit his receivers. His accuracy is not up to par. >>

He's been a bit off, but that has primarily been due to him taking a beating and being hit when he throws. Still, he's made two big time throws, including the long TD and the one that set up the Murray TD on 4th down. Romo is playing great.

grote15 · January 4, 2015 8:14AM

Have never seen the officials pick up a flag that late after announcing the penalty. Dallas gets a huge break.

Dave99B · January 4, 2015 8:15AM

Wowwwwwwwww......

Dave

grote15 · January 4, 2015 8:18AM

<< Wowwwwwwwww......

Dave >>

It's like Pittsburgh vs Seattle all over again, Dave, LOL!

tennesseebanker · January 4, 2015 8:24AM

The Refs are getting Paid well for this game.

grote15 · January 4, 2015 8:28AM

Class dismissed.

DIMEMAN · January 4, 2015 8:32AM

That was a correct no call.

Largentcollector · January 4, 2015 8:32AM

I don't care who wins this game, but those last two sequences looked a little one sided.

grote15 · January 4, 2015 8:34AM

<< That was a correct no call. >>

Terrible call but it helped Dallas.

grote15 · January 4, 2015 8:36AM

What in the world is Lawrence doing???

Largentcollector · January 4, 2015 8:45AM

Game, there will a ton of sports talk about this one

DIMEMAN · January 4, 2015 8:50AM

Well, we played bad.....shot ourself in the foot several times and managed to win.

Will have to do better in GB.

sparky64 · January 4, 2015 8:51AM

Wooooo.....Hooooo!!!

perkdog · January 4, 2015 8:51AM

Detroit got completely screwed by that penalty being called back, that was the game changer right there.

grote15 · January 4, 2015 8:51AM

[iWill have to do better in GB. ]

Definitely.

Romo from choker to clutch, LOL!!

Dave99B · January 4, 2015 8:57AM

It's like Pittsburgh vs Seattle all over again, Dave, LOL!

Dave

fergie23 · January 4, 2015 9:00AM

Definitely a terrible decision by the refs to pick up the flag on that pass interference call but Detroit still could have stopped Dallas from scoring on the ensuing drive or scored on their last possession.

Robb

Dave99B · January 4, 2015 9:06AM

Refs aside, I give the Boyz credit for 'finding a way''....in the end that's all that matters at this time of year.

Dave

DIMEMAN · January 4, 2015 9:06AM

>>>Detroit got completely screwed by that penalty being called back, that was the game changer right there.<<<

The ball hit the defender "before" contact....no foul.

What was bogus was the ruffing kicker call....where the kicker jumped up and landed on our guy.....WTF.

Then later they hit our kicker......no call!

Don't complain.....the refs were the city council of Detroit.

thehallmark · January 4, 2015 9:08AM

Lions made a lot of bad mistakes after the picked up flag, which was really a 50/50 call.

As usual, Romo was a good QB: https://www.numberfire.com/nfl/news/2260/why-the-tony-romo-narrative-is-complete-garbage

GREAT matchups for next week!

BLUEJAYWAY · January 4, 2015 9:11AM

<< Detroit got completely screwed by that penalty being called back, that was the game changer right there. >>

Game ball went to the refs.

galaxy27 · January 4, 2015 9:39AM

Watch this...

Then read this, straight from the NFL rule book...

Actions that constitute defensive pass interference include but are not limited to:

(a) Contact by a defender who is not playing the ball and such contact restricts the receiver’s opportunity to make the catch.

The refs blew the hell out of that call-no call, and it tipped the scales like no other. If they don't pick up the flag, the Lions are up three on the Cowboys' 30 with roughly eight and half left. Instead, they were forced to punt.

Belated Merry Christmas!

Piggs · January 4, 2015 9:44AM

That was not only the worst non call of the playoffs but that's right up there for worst of the year. That referee crew finished up it's year tonight, none of them will grade high enough to move on. Expect the NFL to issue a statement tomorrow that it should have been a PI call. A little too late for Lions fan.

stormtrooper80 · January 4, 2015 9:51AM

That call doesn't matter for anyone. Green Bay is going to kill Dallas anyway

itzagoner · January 4, 2015 9:56AM

what did we learn today:

Tony Romo is at his dramatic peak when laying face flat on the turf and banging his arms wildly.

Dez Bryant still needs a valium. if you tell him so, he will yell at you, too.

Suh. whew!

Erin Andrews. nuf said.

Leon Lett knows ironic twists. so does Golden Tate.

grote15 · January 4, 2015 10:13AM

I'd feel bad for Lions fans, but can't muster enough sympathy to do so..

Stafford now 0-18 all time on road vs teams with winning record.

DIMEMAN · January 4, 2015 10:19AM

Seeing Suh cry on TV........WHAT A BONUS!!!!!

lightningboy · January 4, 2015 10:45AM

(a) Contact by a defender who is not playing the ball and such contact restricts the receiver’s opportunity to make the catch

The only thing restricting the receiver from making a catch was the fact that the ball was thrown to the middle of Hitchens' back. The flag should have been thrown on Stafford for a crap throw.

What changed the course of the game was the Dallas O line getting doing a slightly better job in the 2nd half and the Dallas D line getting a bit more pressure on Stafford in the 2nd half.

TennisCoach · January 4, 2015 11:38AM

The PI reversal was probably due to Pettigrew having his arm extended on Hitchens trying to create separation prior to the ball arriving. Hitchens then tries to brush the arm of the TE away. Pettigrew then slows down and tries to reach through the chasing defender to make a play on an underthrown ball. When you add these together its a judgment call, I have seen this play called interference and I have seen it not called because the receiver hand checks with an extended arm and then reaches back through the defender. If Hitchens had changed course to get in the way of the hands of the receiver without looking back for the ball then he probably would have been called for PI. However in this case he was fighting through the hand check by brushing the arm away and the ball hits him in the back prior to his making contact with his body. Anyone that watches football has seen this same play called both ways many times. I think if it Hitchens changes course to disrupt the play or if it had been a better thrown ball then PI would have been the call. As things are what they were this play is PI maybe 60 to 70% of the time and 30 to 40% of the time it is not called. If Hitchens had made body contact before the ball hit him in the back and the ball was not underthrown then it would have almost certainly been called PI.

There were plays where Witten and Beasely were being held that were not called. There was a running into the kicker penalty where the kicker lands on his plant foot, does a small hop, then places his kicking leg down on the defender lying on the ground and then promptly flops. The Punter fell down on purpose, it was a total soccer flop designed to draw a penalty and it worked. Any pro athlete could have stayed upright without falling over in that situation. Dallas could have been flagged when Dez came onto the field without his helmet on right after a play.

Beasley almost had his head taken off with that up high shoulder to facemask hit. Sometimes early in the season when the refs are strict about the rules that sort of play can lead to an ejection, usually not, but sometimes. It was a hard fought game where it came down to which team converted on 4th downs. The Lions chose to try an draw the defense offsides and punt, Dallas chose to go for it!

grote15 · January 4, 2015 12:11PM

I don't think anyone would have really faulted the officials for calling or not calling the penalty (though it was a penalty, imo, and is called as such 90% of the time when defender has his back to the pass, especially these days), but once you throw the flag and announce the penalty and THEN pick up the flag? That is why, as Doug (piggs) said, none of these officials will be moving onto the next round. When the focus on the outcome of the game is on the officials instead of the players, it's not a good look for the NFL. Pereira made a feeble attempt to defend the officials in the booth by saying maybe they weren't used to working together, but he knows they blew the call, 100%.

Regarding the running into the kicker penalty called on Dallas~it wasn't a 15-yard roughing the kicker personal foul variety but it was CLEARLY a running into the kicker 5-yard penalty that gets called every time.

That said, Dallas made the plays and gave Romo enough time in the second half to get the ball downfield to win the game. At the very least, his performance should finally put to rest the nonsense that he cannot play under pressure or play well in the playoffs.

TennisCoach · January 4, 2015 12:48PM

Yeah grote15, I realize that the running into the kicker penalty says you need to give the punter a clear space with which to land and bring down his kicking leg. By the letter of the law this was running into the kicker, but I think we both know that Detroit's punter Sam Martin did not fall to the ground from the so called contact. If he doesn't fall and just places his foot down on the defender and stays upright that flag is not thrown. By performing a flop and falling down he forces the ref into a decision, the flag is thrown, and he gets the call.

grote15 · January 4, 2015 12:58PM

<< Yeah grote15, I realize that the running into the kicker penalty says you need to give the punter a clear space with which to land and bring down his kicking leg. By the letter of the law this was running into the kicker, but I think we both know that Detroit's punter Sam Martin did not fall to the ground from the so called contact. If he doesn't fall and just places his foot down on the defender and stays upright that flag is not thrown. By performing a flop and falling down he forces the ref into a decision, the flag is thrown, and he gets the call. >>

As he should. It helped his team score a TD by capitalizing on the mental error by the Dallas defender. Guys perform out there all the time~if you take the receiver's word for it, you'd think there was defensive holding or PI on every play, LOL..

grote15 · January 4, 2015 1:10PM

Mike Pereira's tweet, earlier tonight:

I am out of here. Biggest call was the DPI pickup. It was DPI and it was defensive holding as well. Not good. Flying back to Sac tonight.

Dave99B · January 4, 2015 1:35PM

Not sure I've ever seen a mauling like that NOT called, at least not in the pros. Unreal.

I've studied this closer than the Zapruder film. Not only is this PI, you can clearly see Hitchens lift Pettigrews wallet in frames 142-147!

Dave

Justacommeman · January 4, 2015 2:10PM

100% Pass interference and holding. Only Cowboy fans would see it any other way.

Mj

Justacommeman · January 4, 2015 3:21PM

Lions and Refs gift Cowboys. Somehow it seems business as usual

MJ

seebelow · January 4, 2015 4:54PM

You can face guard in the pros you can not in college. So no penalty. But, wow, difficult to pick it up once thrown. No dog in this fight, maybe anti-Romo...it was the correct call. Which was my immediate impression, gut reaction.

There was a little touching but that's what everyone complains about that ticky tac stuff shouldn't be called.

DIMEMAN · January 4, 2015 10:19PM

TennisCoach called it right. It was a good no call. Detroit was holding our receivers all night and got away with it most of the time.

Then there was the academy award performance by their punter that turned into a Detroit TD.

Sorry Detroit fans......all I can say is....

NA NA NA NA ......NA NA NA NA.....HEY HEY HEY.....GOODBYE!!!!!

Dallas winning great!

Suh crying at PC...PRICELESS!!!

seebelow · January 4, 2015 10:20PM

Suh was crying?

Maybe he was cold.

perkdog · January 4, 2015 11:05PM

You guys that are saying the refs got it right are 100% out of your minds, it cracks me up reading your posts like you think you know what your talking about.

Can you guys explain how everyone else thinks it was a horrendous pick up of that flag? Im not even a fan of either team and dont care who won but geezuz that non penalty basically turned the tide of the game.

That right there is a perfect example of why I quit betting on the NFL years ago, its a complete joke and probably fixed.

grote15 · January 4, 2015 11:18PM

The former NFL vice president of officiating says they botched the call. That's all you need to know right there.

Justacommeman · January 5, 2015 12:51AM

<< TennisCoach called it right. It was a good no call. Detroit was holding our receivers all night and got away with it most of the time.

Then there was the academy award performance by their punter that turned into a Detroit TD.

Sorry Detroit fans......all I can say is....

NA NA NA NA ......NA NA NA NA.....HEY HEY HEY.....GOODBYE!!!!!

Dallas winning great!

Suh crying at PC...PRICELESS!!!

>>

He certainly was emotional. Every single Lion figured they would beat Dallas. On the scoreboard they didn't. The better team doesn't always win.

MJ

telephoto1 · January 5, 2015 1:10AM

<< That call doesn't matter for anyone. Green Bay is going to kill Dallas anyway >>

This.

galaxy27 · January 5, 2015 1:39AM

<< The PI reversal was probably due to Pettigrew having his arm extended on Hitchens trying to create separation prior to the ball arriving. Hitchens then tries to brush the arm of the TE away. Pettigrew then slows down and tries to reach through the chasing defender to make a play on an underthrown ball. When you add these together its a judgment call, I have seen this play called interference and I have seen it not called because the receiver hand checks with an extended arm and then reaches back through the defender. If Hitchens had changed course to get in the way of the hands of the receiver without looking back for the ball then he probably would have been called for PI. However in this case he was fighting through the hand check by brushing the arm away and the ball hits him in the back prior to his making contact with his body. Anyone that watches football has seen this same play called both ways many times. I think if it Hitchens changes course to disrupt the play or if it had been a better thrown ball then PI would have been the call. As things are what they were this play is PI maybe 60 to 70% of the time and 30 to 40% of the time it is not called. If Hitchens had made body contact before the ball hit him in the back and the ball was not underthrown then it would have almost certainly been called PI. >>

TennisCoach, I like you and I love the way you always dig deep when it comes to your thoughts, but this is by far the worst analysis you've ever provided. This paragraph sounds like verbal diarrhea spewing out of the mouth of a partial Boys fan. After I read it, I felt like Redd Foxx when he's about to have a faux myocardial infarction:

You hear that, Elizabeth? I'm coming to join you, honey! This is the big one!

"The PI reversal was probably due to Pettigrew having his arm extended on Hitchens trying to create separation prior to tube ball arriving."

That has absolutely nothing to do with why the flag was picked up. Besides, where are Pettigrew's arms supposed to be with the ball in the air? In his pockets? Scratching the back of his head? If you watch the GIF I posted, you'll see his hand briefly touching Hitchens. There was no attempt to create separation. That would have happened had he physically pushed or shoved him -- something that never occurred.

"Hitchens then tries to brush the arm of the TE away."

In other words, pass interference.

"Pettigrew then slows down and tries to reach through the chasing defender to make a play on an underthrown ball."

He slowed down because he turned his entire body toward the football. In other words, he was adjusting and making a play on the ball, unlike Anthony Hitchens. You can honestly watch that play over and over and still come to the conclusion that he was "reaching through the chasing defender"? Really?

"When you add these together its a judgment call,"

True. But if you add these together and swallow the flag, your judgment is severely impaired.

"I have seen this play called interference"

So have I. Virtually every time.

"I have seen it not called because the receiver hand checks with an extended arm and then reaches back through the defender."

Hand-checking is generally allowed if a player is attempting to make a play on the ball. Shoving is not. And really? This reaching back through the defender thing again?

"If Hitchens had changed course to get in the way of the hands of the receiver without looking back for the ball then he probably would have been called for PI."

Um, he did get in the way of the hands of the receiver without looking back for the ball -- that's why it left a dent in his spine.

"However in this case he was fighting through the hand check by brushing the arm away and the ball hits him in the back prior to his making contact with his body."

So you admit he was redirecting Pettigrew's arm while failing to make an attempt on the ball. Just making sure we're not talking about pass interference here.

"Anyone that watches football has seen this same play called both ways many times."

You and I must watch different games.

"I think if it Hitchens changes course to disrupt the play"

Based on the course that was chosen, he didn't disrupt the play at all?

"if it had been a better thrown ball"

Stafford is the culpable party?

"As things are what they were this play is PI maybe 60 to 70% of the time and 30 to 40% of the time it is not called."

Next time you watch a particular game, would you please text me so I can make sure I do something else?

"If Hitchens had made body contact before the ball hit him in the back"

He did. You even conceded this.

"and the ball was not under thrown"

It's coming to me now. Matthew Stafford committed the infraction.

"then it would have almost certainly been called PI"

Glad you cleared this up. Remind me never to watch football ever again.

telephoto1 · January 5, 2015 2:27AM

Tempest in a teapot. I'm more ticked that nothing was called when Bigmouth Bryant came out on the field with no helmet.

BLUEJAYWAY · January 5, 2015 2:29AM

<< 

<< That call doesn't matter for anyone. Green Bay is going to kill Dallas anyway >>

This. >>

Maybe Green Bay will be privy to some "home cooking" from the refs.

When it really matters, the Boyz are getting schooled

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