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Old gold small coin - real or repro?

I don't think this is real, but strangely enough it tests at gold..

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If you don't ask, you won't know...

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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,569 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did you check for leaking chocolate?
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There is no genuine gold dollar of that design, and it is so crude I doubt it was made to deceive. Possibly a game counter, or possibly a bingle made for jewelry purposes.

    Check with Mike Locke about it.
    Professional Numismatist, Retired. 55 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner of the PNG's 2026 Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    I did the taste test after the gold test.. it was a little sweet.
    If you don't ask, you won't know...
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How did you test it? If you used the acid test it may be gold plated in which case it will pass unless you use a stone or jeweler's file to break through the plating which is definitely a bad idea since it will be considered as damage to the coin.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    BustCudsBustCuds Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭

    Gold Plated Jewelry Trinket.
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    COALPORTERCOALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭
    Doesn't even have a date on it. Are there any terr. gold coins
    that were dateless ? I haven't really checked.
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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,077 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm surprised there's no bear on it. image
    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
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    coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,528 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not a genuine coin and not a reproduction. Appears to be a modern fantasy imitation. And not in compliance with the 1973 Hobby Protection Act.

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
    http://www.american-legacy-coins.com

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,803 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Not a genuine coin and not a reproduction. Appears to be a modern fantasy imitation. And not in compliance with the 1973 Hobby Protection Act. >>



    How do you know it wasn't made before 1973 in which case it would be legal?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,803 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Doesn't even have a date on it. Are there any terr. gold coins
    that were dateless ? I haven't really checked. >>



    There are a few period 1 round 1/4 dollar coins that are dateless but none of the $1 coins.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    csdotcsdot Posts: 737 ✭✭✭✭
    I don't know of any $1 US gold coins with a border of flowers instead of stars.
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is Mike Locke's website. Look for it in there.

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    Professional Numismatist, Retired. 55 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner of the PNG's 2026 Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's Liberty's ugly sister, Oppression.
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    coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,528 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Not a genuine coin and not a reproduction. Appears to be a modern fantasy imitation. And not in compliance with the 1973 Hobby Protection Act. >>



    How do you know it wasn't made before 1973 in which case it would be legal? >>



    It doesn't matter whether I know or don't know when it was made. And you should be smart enough to recognize that. Go ask a Treasury Bureau agent if you aren't smart enough.

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
    http://www.american-legacy-coins.com

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,803 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>

    << <i>Not a genuine coin and not a reproduction. Appears to be a modern fantasy imitation. And not in compliance with the 1973 Hobby Protection Act. >>



    How do you know it wasn't made before 1973 in which case it would be legal? >>



    It doesn't matter whether I know or don't know when it was made. And you should be smart enough to recognize that. Go ask a Treasury Bureau agent if you aren't smart enough. >>



    The HPA only applies to coins made after the act was passed. If you don't believe me, go ask a Treasury Bureau agent.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,528 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Try convincing a Treasury Bureau agent that something like the OP's token was made before 1973. Go ahead. Prove it. You'll have to. The burden of proof is NOT on the government.

    Ask me sometime about the Department of the Interior case that was foisted on my late friend Frank VanZandt, simply because an egomaniacal young overachiever agent believed he was in violation of NAGPRA, despite the fact that all of his possesions were carefully documented as to the time and source.

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,803 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Try convincing a Treasury Bureau agent that something like the OP's token was made before 1973. Go ahead. Prove it. You'll have to. The burden of proof is NOT on the government. >>

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    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sure looks like gold. Certainly not a US mint issue, and it doesn't look like any cal gold pieces I've seen. Possibly a small pseudo bullion piece like the 20th century middle-eastern "fakes" of popular US gold coins?
    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame

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