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I have a morgan with a little card saying it's from them.Has a grade and number on it.Does this add to the coin and how close to grade are they?

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,418 ✭✭✭✭✭

    how close to grade are they?

    It depends on the actual coin and the assigned grade.
    Andy Lustig

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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>how close to grade are they?

    It depends on the actual coin and the assigned grade. >>



    Good point. I might add, the numerical grade is equally important image
  • numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have a morgan with a little card saying it's from them.Has a grade and number on it.Does this add to the coin and how close to grade are they? >>



    It adds a bit in terms of numismatic nostalgia. The B&R days are long gone, and the card you mentioned is getting more and more scarce, since modern day coin dealers toss them like trash when coins are sent in to be regraded.

    What's the added value? Well, like others have said, it has more to do with their assigned grade and what the coin would grade today. The card is just the cherry on top of the cake for hard core collectors.
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have a morgan with a little card saying it's from them.Has a grade and number on it.Does this add to the coin and how close to grade are they? >>



    Depends somewhat on what year they graded it. But in general, the assigned grades by most major retailers from 1973-1986 should be ignored. By 1980 most anything that was choice MS63 was being called gem MS65. When the coin market tanked in 1981-1982 it was possible to get some accurately graded coins for the first time in years. When dealers were buying anything as MS65 at that time they expected a no questions killer coin. Consumers got wise to all the gradeflation that had occurred the previous 10 years though not for long. All that was forgotten in the 1983-1986 era as standards loosened up yet again....eventually summoning the FTC to the hobby and helping to create PCGS.
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  • 2ndCharter2ndCharter Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Depends somewhat on what year they graded it. But in general, the assigned grades by most major retailers from 1973-1986 should be ignored.

    Exactly right. I could pull an Auction '79 or Auction '80 catalog off the shelf and point out numerous coins that were called "Gem BU" and which now reside in 50 to 55 holders.

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  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,503 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jim Ruddy in the late 1980's early 1990's actually moved out of coins and became a collector of space memorabilia instead. I talk to him every now and then. Here is a link to a website he's set up to display his collection.


    Mooncollector.com
  • jomjom Posts: 3,487 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Jim Ruddy in the late 1980's early 1990's actually moved out of coins and became a collector of space memorabilia instead. I talk to him every now and then. Here is a link to a website he's set up to display his collection.


    Mooncollector.com >>



    Thanks for that!

    jom

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