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New record for earliest 8 reales struck in the Americas

bidaskbidask Posts: 14,022 ✭✭✭✭✭
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New record !
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  • EclecticEclectic Posts: 182
    Amazing! 46 years after Columbus arrived in America
  • EVillageProwlerEVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool! Anyone know the story of the other two pieces? E.g., grade, provenance chain, etc.?

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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Neat.
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  • NapNap Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Very cool! Anyone know the story of the other two pieces? E.g., grade, provenance chain, etc.? >>



    Not much about them in the auction description except that the other examples sold in 2006 and 2008, with the suggestion that one was superior and the other inferior in condition to this specimen.
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  • LochNESSLochNESS Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭
    Hands-down the coolest shipwreck coin I've ever seen.

    I bet the boys at NGC spent more than 5-7 seconds grading her image
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  • HussuloHussulo Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭
    Nice looking coin. I was just about to say I haven't seen one of those before and then read that there's only 3 know. That'll explain why! image
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  • MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Any ideas on how these escaped salt-water damage?
  • worldcoinguyworldcoinguy Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fascinating.
  • LochNESSLochNESS Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Any ideas on how these escaped salt-water damage? >>

    They didn't have ziplock bags in 1538? image
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  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,642 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Any ideas on how these escaped salt-water damage? >>


    Overall, there were many high-grade 4 Reales from this wreck.

    In fact, some of them have graded as high as MS63!
  • LochNESSLochNESS Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭
    Maybe the 4R and these three 8R were buried underneath all the other 8R pieces, which suffered severe salt-water damage and decay but shielded/preserved those underneath? If they were sitting in a treasure chest of sorts?
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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My understanding is if silver coins are laying with a lot of iron the iron will oxidize first protecting the silver.
  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭✭
    So, stupid question, but how on earth do you read the dates off of these things? I understand this coin is probably a unique type (what do I know), but a lot of other early 8 reales I've seen I could not tell the date of even with a gun at my head. Is there anywhere in specific I'm supposed to look to read the dates?
  • AndresAndres Posts: 977 ✭✭✭
    early Mexican cobs have no date, the assayer mark will give an approx. date , in this case the capital R between the pillars stands for Francisco del Rincon,
    who was in office between 1536 - 1538.
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