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CaptHenway
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Serious question....are there now some threads that are just hopelessly messed up? If so, should a thread like the one on the Trade Dollar fingers be restarted?
Or will the access problems eventually be resolved?
Or will the access problems eventually be resolved?
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i haven't noticed any of my posts not being visible and i make it a point to read my own posts after i submit them to look for errors, which there usually are in some form or another. they haven't been appearing out of order and i haven't seen any major context problems, ie: someone saying something before/after me that didn't seem to jive with the flow of conversation but i cannot say if there are things i cannot see for obvious reasons.
still on win7 ff 9.0
you guys trying different browsers, running ccleaner, disk cleanup and/or restarting devices?
if this is a mac or mobile device, there could be other issues.
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<< <i>So people understand, I haven't been able to see any new posts in the trade dollar thread I started a few days ago. I can post to it, but can't see my posts or others' posts. I've heard this is true for others too. It may be happening to people without them realizing it. >>
Just bumped it with no problem.
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<< <i>So people understand, I haven't been able to see any new posts in the trade dollar thread I started a few days ago. I can post to it, but can't see my posts or others' posts. I've heard this is true for others too. It may be happening to people without them realizing it. >>
Just bumped it with no problem. >>
Thanks, but I can't see the bump.
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<< <i>So people understand, I haven't been able to see any new posts in the trade dollar thread I started a few days ago. I can post to it, but can't see my posts or others' posts. I've heard this is true for others too. It may be happening to people without them realizing it. >>
Just bumped it with no problem. >>
are you referring to: B.U.M.P. ?
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<< <i>So people understand, I haven't been able to see any new posts in the trade dollar thread I started a few days ago. I can post to it, but can't see my posts or others' posts. I've heard this is true for others too. It may be happening to people without them realizing it. >>
Just bumped it with no problem. >>
are you referring to: B.U.M.P. ?
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Guess it should be BUTT.
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<< <i>McGlicker...was there anything between my question about J-1323 and your bump? >>
After your response to original Dan on the afternoon of the twelfth regarding scenario two there is your post asking if the posts can be seen and a post by you of a pattern Trade dollar. Also a post from the OP also wondering about the missing posts.
This is the post that you had responded to:::
After giving this more thought, here’s where I stand.
I believe the J1323 pattern trade dollar shown above was created with 5 fingers (thumb, 3 fingers folded back and index finger extended/pointing along the contour of the olive branch). The area of the design around the hand and branch was cluttered and it’s understandable that the eventual design would be cleaned up a bit. Whether this was accomplished by removing the pointing finger or not is where I’m still on the fence. I see one of two scenarios being likely:
Scenario one (4 fingers -> 5 fingers)
When implementing the eventual public issue the engraver/artist cleaned up the design, with a thumb and three fingers wrapped back to the palm. The engraver removed the pointing finger, lengthened the portion of the olive branch just above the hand and added another berry/thorn/growth to balance the design, making it aesthetically pleasing. Then, in 1876 after people noticed the missing finger, a 4th finger was added, folded back against the palm.
This scenario is conceivable, and arguments for it include:
- Another finger was added later, so there must have been a missing finger right?
- The berry/thorn/growth is somewhat disconnected from the main branch. If it was a finger, one would think it would be more continuous and connected to the hand.
- If the berry/thorn/growth really was a finger, why wasn't it removed when the additional finger was added in 1876?
Scenario two (5 fingers -> 6 fingers)
When implementing the eventual public issue the engraver/artist cleaned up the design by simplifying the olive branch and running the pointing index finger through the branch instead of contouring it, for 5 fingers total. Despite Liberty already having 5 fingers, the public (or some public official with clout) mistook the pointing index finger for a berry/thorn/growth as so many of us have, so the artist/engraver was pushed to add another finger folded back to the palm into the design in 1876.
This scenario is also conceivable, arguments for it include:
- The pattern shows a pointing finger, it makes sense this would be included in the eventual public issue
- Sometimes an artist is coerced into making changes they don’t like to satisfy a client. In this case, the public or an important public figure thought a finger was missing, so the design was updated to add another, even though it meant adding an anatomically incorrect 6th finger.
I could see either scenario being true. Based on comments above it seems that people are in both camps with possibly more thinking scenario #2 occurred. Unless we can find some documentation one way or the other, we’ll never know. I think we’ve made some headway in figuring out what happened but there’s certainly still a bit of mystery surrounding this all.
Just a note about the delayed posts not updating the post count, also the last person to reply is not updated.
On my version of the thread, it is right above your To The Top.
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<< <i>Perhaps it is a sign the bugs being experienced are being worked upon
Just a note about the delayed posts not updating the post count, also the last person to reply is not updated. >>
The forum is definitely coughing and choking a bit tonight in the usual way.
<< <i>McGlicker...do you see my post from today, the 14th, where I reran his picture of the Ji1323 and asked about the right angle thingie by the arrow feathers and commented on how the arrow head shafts do not line up with anything?
On my version of the thread, it is right above your To The Top. >>
Seen and in same position
<< <i>McGlicker...can you see it? >>
Yes...it was the last post before my bump.
"""Looking at the reverse, what is that odd right-angled feature above the arrow feathers? Just a cutaway to highlight the arror feathers? Any chance of a closeup of that area?
And note how the shafts on the arrow heads don't necessarily line up with anything."""
Here is a link to the max image. Thread is okay for me as well, but I was having troubles a few days ago:
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And to answer your question Capt, it is the fletchings of an arrow, and like you pointed out it does not match up with any of the arrowheads.
There are several uncounted multi-posts, so new page creation is off. The posts are not disappearing, they are not displaying because they lie off to last page the software creates. Manually change the page number in the address bar up one (or more as conditions require) and the posts will display.
<< <i>Looking over the thread more carefully, the issue is the standard issue now.
There are several uncounted multi-posts, so new page creation is off. The posts are not disappearing, they are not displaying because they lie off to last page the software creates. Manually change the page number in the address bar up one (or more as conditions require) and the posts will display. >>
I think you are right. The reason I had an issue longer than others is that I set my prefs to show more posts per page. Thus it took longer for the post count to roll over and show the next page, for me. Good to know there's a workaround, thank you for the tip.